So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery??

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-22-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

Dockery has got to go. He's no good, he doesn't play up to his weight and is terrible in space. The question is can we upgrade? A solid organization with a good personnel department (which the redskins don't have) could find a good guard in the 3,4, or even 5th round of the draft.

If we have a poor scouting department, why should we dump Dockery and rely on that scouting department to get us a better player?

chris36 · 11-22-2006, 04:59 PM

I disagree with our personnel department, not being good at getting draft picks. The only person I can think of, in recent years, might be a bust is Carlos Rogers. They have done a good job picking the players, just not a good job of keeping them once they mature, as players.

Daseal · 11-22-2006, 05:25 PM

Carlos Rogers is in his 2nd year and you're calling him a bust? He certainly hasn't played great this year, but give him a pass rush and see how he plays. Look at his rookie year, he played great.

Last week he played really solid. No one could have protected against that Joey Galloway slant. It was the right call vs the right defense. During that play, any of us could have been on the field and same result. There's simply very little you can do against that. One of the fastest guys in the NFL on a slant with no safety help? Maybe had Carlos given him a cushion he could have kept an angle on him, but probably not even then.

SouperMeister · 11-22-2006, 05:39 PM

For the sake of stability, I'd keep Dockery. Especially if Gibbs is committed to his core priciple of running the ball as he said in his press conference after the Tampa game. I went to the Jacksonville game where I felt Dock more than held his own against All-pro John Henderson.

chris36 · 11-22-2006, 06:28 PM

I did not say he is a bust, I said he might be a bust. Everyone, Taylor, Archuletta, Rogers, and Springs have looked bad this year. But Carlos plays way to far off the receiver. When I see that, it says to me that he either does not have the speed to play the position or the agility.

freddyg12 · 11-22-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I prefer to keep him for several reasons: (1) we haven't done too well in free agency lately; (2) we have more pressing needs than G and I'd like to see us spend a draft pick on an area of need; (3) Dockery will not command a huge contract; (4) unlike draft picks and free agents, Dockery is familiar with the system and our players; (5) Dockery is still young and has a lot of potential; and (6) I hate seeing us refuse to pay our own guys while freespending on other teams' guys.

I'm w/ya, except w/#3 - I fear somebody will offer him kinda big $, maybe the cardinals, they are in need of o-linemen. It will depend on what other o-linemen are available. I thin espn said it will be a thin fa crop, which makes sense since the cba was just signed & a lot of guys were cut and/or signed this past offseason. If that's the case, don't be surprised if someone is willing to overpay, we're not the only ones who do it.

steveo395 · 11-22-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

I did not say he is a bust, I said he might be a bust. Everyone, Taylor, Archuletta, Rogers, and Springs have looked bad this year. But Carlos plays way to far off the receiver. When I see that, it says to me that he either does not have the speed to play the position or the agility.

Rogers' best 40 time was a 4.35. He has the speed. The coaches tell him to play that far off. Springs does the same thing. They did the same thing last year.

chris36 · 11-22-2006, 07:40 PM

Well, I am not sure who's fault it is, but he has been burned repeatedly. He is lacking something.

4mrusmc · 11-23-2006, 09:34 PM

Man I fell asleep and thought I woke up in 2004. Except that we freaking suck worse!!! This high paid coaching staff has not paid dividends! What a waste a of talent. Wake-up coaching staff, just because of your pedigree and your talent of what you have done in the past. Doesn't mean that all of the other teams in the NFL will just simply lay the f--- down for you! Yeah, that's right you actually have to get your players ready, mind body and soul to play game in and game out. What a waste!!!! And players, you don't get a pass either. Most of you guys are'nt even worthy of wearing that uniform!!!!!! Wake up and be men!! Throw this season in freaking garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

56FAN · 11-24-2006, 09:05 AM

sign him for security, but we need another randy t type guard, and by that i mean a guard the can pull effectivley. i heard that dockery lost some wieght but he still can't get out of his own way.that's why when randy went down last year our running game went down with him.saunders likes sweeps but portis , betts are forced to leave dockery behind or gain nothing.you've got 2 tackles a 310 pounds, a guard a 305 and a center at 308. then dockery at 345 or more. he's a striaght line mauler , not a pulling guard which is what we need.

11-22-2006, 04:59 PM	#17
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? I disagree with our personnel department, not being good at getting draft picks. The only person I can think of, in recent years, might be a bust is Carlos Rogers. They have done a good job picking the players, just not a good job of keeping them once they mature, as players.

11-22-2006, 05:25 PM	#18
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Carlos Rogers is in his 2nd year and you're calling him a bust? He certainly hasn't played great this year, but give him a pass rush and see how he plays. Look at his rookie year, he played great. Last week he played really solid. No one could have protected against that Joey Galloway slant. It was the right call vs the right defense. During that play, any of us could have been on the field and same result. There's simply very little you can do against that. One of the fastest guys in the NFL on a slant with no safety help? Maybe had Carlos given him a cushion he could have kept an angle on him, but probably not even then. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-22-2006, 05:39 PM	#19
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 48 Posts: 2,917	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? For the sake of stability, I'd keep Dockery. Especially if Gibbs is committed to his core priciple of running the ball as he said in his press conference after the Tampa game. I went to the Jacksonville game where I felt Dock more than held his own against All-pro John Henderson.

11-22-2006, 06:28 PM	#20
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? I did not say he is a bust, I said he might be a bust. Everyone, Taylor, Archuletta, Rogers, and Springs have looked bad this year. But Carlos plays way to far off the receiver. When I see that, it says to me that he either does not have the speed to play the position or the agility.

11-22-2006, 07:40 PM	#23
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Well, I am not sure who's fault it is, but he has been burned repeatedly. He is lacking something.

11-23-2006, 09:34 PM	#24
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 43 Posts: 558	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? Man I fell asleep and thought I woke up in 2004. Except that we freaking suck worse!!! This high paid coaching staff has not paid dividends! What a waste a of talent. Wake-up coaching staff, just because of your pedigree and your talent of what you have done in the past. Doesn't mean that all of the other teams in the NFL will just simply lay the f--- down for you! Yeah, that's right you actually have to get your players ready, mind body and soul to play game in and game out. What a waste!!!! And players, you don't get a pass either. Most of you guys are'nt even worthy of wearing that uniform!!!!!! Wake up and be men!! Throw this season in freaking garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-24-2006, 09:05 AM	#25
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 50 Posts: 323	Re: So Will It Be A Free Agent Guard, Draft Pick, Or Resign Dockery?? sign him for security, but we need another randy t type guard, and by that i mean a guard the can pull effectivley. i heard that dockery lost some wieght but he still can't get out of his own way.that's why when randy went down last year our running game went down with him.saunders likes sweeps but portis , betts are forced to leave dockery behind or gain nothing.you've got 2 tackles a 310 pounds, a guard a 305 and a center at 308. then dockery at 345 or more. he's a striaght line mauler , not a pulling guard which is what we need.

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