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Old 11-28-2006, 10:39 AM   #61
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choke artist! HA! thats a term i usually reserved for such worthless fuckers as Drew Bledsoe and Kobe Bryant hahahahaa......Vanderjagt is a douche but....agreed, anything is better than Nick Novak.....
How is Kobe a choke artist, he is one of the most clutch NBA players right now(besides the great Horry of course). Seriously Kobe has three rings, and is the best player in the NBA IMO.
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:45 AM   #62
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Parcells has a bad recent history w/kickers. Remember last year when they cut Cortez only to bring him back, or was that Cundiff? Regardless he doesn't show them much respect & I think he wanted to cut V'jac back in preseason. He got into his head & probably worsened the slump.
I voted no in the poll, cause he might be bringing too much baggage, but I would have to say he's better than Novak. Poor Nick, if you could only make some kicks & stick around a few years!
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:28 PM   #63
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How is Kobe a choke artist, he is one of the most clutch NBA players right now(besides the great Horry of course). Seriously Kobe has three rings, and is the best player in the NBA IMO.
No doubt, Kobe is a baller. He has really matured from back in the day when Shaq was around.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:30 PM   #64
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Parcells has a bad recent history w/kickers. Remember last year when they cut Cortez only to bring him back, or was that Cundiff? Regardless he doesn't show them much respect & I think he wanted to cut V'jac back in preseason. He got into his head & probably worsened the slump.
I voted no in the poll, cause he might be bringing too much baggage, but I would have to say he's better than Novak. Poor Nick, if you could only make some kicks & stick around a few years!
Cortez was shit, I would have tossed him to the wolves too. But yeah, Parcell has no interpersonal skills.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:36 PM   #65
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While we are on the subject of kickers what happened to Hall? All I herd is that he had fetigue in his leg then he's out on injury reserve. I know he will be gone after the year but I just never heard what really happend.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:40 PM   #66
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Regarding Vanderjagt..

"It is a gift.
A gift to the foes of Dallas! Why not use this kicker?

Long has Joe Gibbs, the Steward of the 'Skins, kept the forces of Dallas at bay. By the blood of our people are your lands kept safe. Give the 'Skins the weapon of the Enemy. Let us use it against him!"
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:04 PM   #67
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Okay seriously it's 1:03 pm and Vanderjagt isn't a Skin yet ?
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:53 PM   #68
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Check out Tony Mcgee's assessment of V. He states he is basically an indoor turf kicker and not as effective on grass. Interesting slant. In his opinion, a small upgrade
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What I don't understand is how your kicking technique is affected inside versus outside. It seems to me that Novak's technique is lacking. Even though the elements might affect his Vanderjagt's kicking, you'd think if anything he is fundamentally sound enough to be at least 75%+ outdoors.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:06 PM   #70
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What I don't understand is how your kicking technique is affected inside versus outside. It seems to me that Novak's technique is lacking. Even though the elements might affect his Vanderjagt's kicking, you'd think if anything he is fundamentally sound enough to be at least 75%+ outdoors.
It's not the technique as much as it's the surface and the lack of weather that makes him a better indoors kicker.

Even at 75% he's an upgrade over Novak who is trying to be our new 50/50.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:14 PM   #71
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For some reason my gut says stick with Nick. I think he, like the team, will get hot soon. Vanderjagt is a virus who sucks outdoors. And Dallas replaced him with Gramatica? That indicates to me that Vanderjagt has real issues, because Gramatica hasn't kicked well in years.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:41 PM   #72
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We need a fix RIGHT NOW, but I would like to hang on to Nick as well. He's cheap and may come around. A good Maryland boy, and if we can live with roster/practice squad spot.........keep him. Maybe, he can be a Theisman, and return kicks??????????? maybe not
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:48 PM   #73
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You know what... I know that novak has struggled, but I like the kid. Not to mention the money factor. Vanderjadt will still command money.

Id much rather watch novak miss than vanderjadt miss. He's a whiney little turd and he doesn't SOLVE the problem of having an inconsistant kicker.
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Maybe it's because he's a hometown kid, but I really don't understand people rationalizing keeping a kicker who's hitting on 50%.
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he couldn't be any worse than novak, and is probably better than him on kickoffs (i cant really remember), which we desperately need help on. our opponents are starting at the 35 constantly it seems
Yep.... Opponents starting at the 35. Just like last year and what does Gibbs do......bring back Hall.
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