Jason Campbell vs. Vick

illdefined · 11-29-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Everyone's posts get picked apart or made fun of sometimes. I just think you take it too personal. You dramatize everything. Everytime someone says something to you or refers to one your posts, you turn into the victim and get all dramatic.

yeah for someone calling us "boys" she sure sounds a lot like a "girl".

so back to FOOTBALL.

Monkeydad · 11-29-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'm sure Pudge didn't join this board to read everyone's internal bickering

Yeah, be nice to the new person or we'll get a ton of e-birds flipped at us.

His points are valid and he was nice in asking his questions.

WELCOME TO THE BOARD! We're not ALL jerks.

Monkeydad · 11-29-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

wrong side of the bed ? :confused:

OR

Wrong week on the calendar?

:cheeky-sm

RobH4413 · 11-29-2006, 01:43 PM

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on a side note WELCOME PUDGE!

I think if your looking for some perspective on Jason Campbell, they've summed him up pretty well. I'll run a quick pro's and con's for ya...

The Good

1)Jason's best quality thus far has been his incredible poise in the pocket. Under pressure he has shown to be competive. He's broken several tackles, avoided sacks, scrambled for first downs, and gotten the ball off in a relatively timely fashion.

2)He has a very powerful arm, giving our offense (which lacked the deep ball under Brunell) a new dimension that defenses have to respect. ESPN's "Jaws" breaks down his first start here: To Analyze Campbell, 'Jaws' Goes Straight to Video - washingtonpost.com

3)Campbell hasn't thrown those costly INT's. Most of everyone (including me) optimistically assumed that he would throw several picks in his first few games. Thus far, he has proven everyone wrong, and hasn't committed those costly turnovers.

The Bad

1) Jason tends to hold on the ball a little to long sometimes, but Saunders appears to have instituted a "max protect" scheme in order to give him some extra time.

2) Some are worried that his release is a hair too long, and that may cause him issues when pressured (ie, ball stripped, d-line anticipating the throws and deflecting the passes, etc...). So far it's been a very minor problem, but remains an issue.

3) He's young. He may make mistakes, and hasn't seen every NFL defense. Once again, this has yet to be seen as a major factor.

SmootSmack · 11-29-2006, 01:56 PM

thank you Rob for bringing this back on topic.

Mattyk · 11-29-2006, 01:58 PM

Welcome Pudge, sorry you had to be exposed to a totally embarrassing showing right off the bat here. Hopefully it won't scare you away, we're really not this bad.... usually.

724Skinsfan · 11-29-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Welcome Pudge, sorry you had to be exposed to a totally embarrassing showing right off the bat here. Hopefully it won't scare you away, we're really not this bad.... usually.

It's kind of like spending the night at a friends house when you're a kid for the first time and his parents argue and yell at each other the entire time.

Redskins_P · 11-29-2006, 02:04 PM

My bad fellas.

Welcome to the board Pudge.

Mattyk · 11-29-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

It's kind of like spending the night at a friends house when you're a kid for the first time and his parents argue and yell at each other the entire time.

Yeah in this case the parents were drunk and the Dad kicked the dog down the stairs, other than that it's just another day in the life of The Warpath.

RobH4413 · 11-29-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

It's kind of like spending the night at a friends house when you're a kid for the first time and his parents argue and yell at each other the entire time.

hahaha, I hated that... (i think the off topic forum may be getting a new "f" thread)

Big C · 11-29-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Welcome Pudge, sorry you had to be exposed to a totally embarrassing showing right off the bat here. Hopefully it won't scare you away, we're really not this bad.... usually.

good joke matty

Hog1 · 11-29-2006, 04:46 PM

Welcome Pudge,
I do see us taking the Falcons this week (which has nothing to do with ANY type of.............Skins bias). JC is just figuring out which way is up. Kid is super cool under fire and can evade the rush. LOVE the way he drills the ball to the guys in stride. If you saw Cool last week. JC hit him over the middle in full gallop. I was thinking, there gonna have to net that man to stop him. When JC figures out where m Moss, Lloyd, and L are hiding, it's gonna be fun!

I have always been a little disappointed in Vick. I don't know if it's him or the people who coach him. The most under utilized talent in the league. Always has been. The Eagles made it work with Cunningham. Maybe he's better in a Beefed up Randel El sort of role. Lots of money, and he probably wouldn't go for that. He's always been entertaining to watch, and puts a lot of people in the stands.

marius · 11-30-2006, 04:48 AM

Hi Pudge, I think someone else may have asked this already but what do Falcons fans think of the Duckett trade?

dmek25 · 11-30-2006, 06:46 AM

welcome, and while i know the falcons are a strong running team, your defense hasn't played anywhere near a playoff teams defense. with Abraham and malloy, i thought you guys would be alot better. and yes, i know Abraham has been hurt. but the falcons are still underachieving.ummm, that sounds alot like the skins

irish · 11-30-2006, 07:03 AM

I think the skins will win this week. If they just contain Vick a little then there's nothing else Atlanta can do on offense. It will be tough but it can be done.

AZs for Vick vs Campbell, I'll take JC every time. He's much more of a pro style QB that has the potential to get better. Vick is as good as he will ever get (which is not that good) and he's only getting older.

11-29-2006, 01:43 PM	#19
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 27 Posts: 2,382	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick --------- on a side note WELCOME PUDGE! I think if your looking for some perspective on Jason Campbell, they've summed him up pretty well. I'll run a quick pro's and con's for ya... The Good 1)Jason's best quality thus far has been his incredible poise in the pocket. Under pressure he has shown to be competive. He's broken several tackles, avoided sacks, scrambled for first downs, and gotten the ball off in a relatively timely fashion. 2)He has a very powerful arm, giving our offense (which lacked the deep ball under Brunell) a new dimension that defenses have to respect. ESPN's "Jaws" breaks down his first start here: To Analyze Campbell, 'Jaws' Goes Straight to Video - washingtonpost.com 3)Campbell hasn't thrown those costly INT's. Most of everyone (including me) optimistically assumed that he would throw several picks in his first few games. Thus far, he has proven everyone wrong, and hasn't committed those costly turnovers. The Bad 1) Jason tends to hold on the ball a little to long sometimes, but Saunders appears to have instituted a "max protect" scheme in order to give him some extra time. 2) Some are worried that his release is a hair too long, and that may cause him issues when pressured (ie, ball stripped, d-line anticipating the throws and deflecting the passes, etc...). So far it's been a very minor problem, but remains an issue. 3) He's young. He may make mistakes, and hasn't seen every NFL defense. Once again, this has yet to be seen as a major factor. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

11-29-2006, 01:56 PM	#20
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick thank you Rob for bringing this back on topic. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-29-2006, 01:58 PM	#21
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,751	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Welcome Pudge, sorry you had to be exposed to a totally embarrassing showing right off the bat here. Hopefully it won't scare you away, we're really not this bad.... usually. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-29-2006, 02:04 PM	#23
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick My bad fellas. Welcome to the board Pudge.

11-29-2006, 04:46 PM	#27
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,378	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Welcome Pudge, I do see us taking the Falcons this week (which has nothing to do with ANY type of.............Skins bias). JC is just figuring out which way is up. Kid is super cool under fire and can evade the rush. LOVE the way he drills the ball to the guys in stride. If you saw Cool last week. JC hit him over the middle in full gallop. I was thinking, there gonna have to net that man to stop him. When JC figures out where m Moss, Lloyd, and L are hiding, it's gonna be fun! I have always been a little disappointed in Vick. I don't know if it's him or the people who coach him. The most under utilized talent in the league. Always has been. The Eagles made it work with Cunningham. Maybe he's better in a Beefed up Randel El sort of role. Lots of money, and he probably wouldn't go for that. He's always been entertaining to watch, and puts a lot of people in the stands. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

11-30-2006, 04:48 AM	#28
marius Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 136	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Hi Pudge, I think someone else may have asked this already but what do Falcons fans think of the Duckett trade?

11-30-2006, 06:46 AM	#29
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick welcome, and while i know the falcons are a strong running team, your defense hasn't played anywhere near a playoff teams defense. with Abraham and malloy, i thought you guys would be alot better. and yes, i know Abraham has been hurt. but the falcons are still underachieving.ummm, that sounds alot like the skins __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-30-2006, 07:03 AM	#30
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,328	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick I think the skins will win this week. If they just contain Vick a little then there's nothing else Atlanta can do on offense. It will be tough but it can be done. AZs for Vick vs Campbell, I'll take JC every time. He's much more of a pro style QB that has the potential to get better. Vick is as good as he will ever get (which is not that good) and he's only getting older.

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