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Old 11-30-2006, 07:35 AM   #31
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you've got to question campbell's judgement after watching the carolina game, especially when he got picked off trying to go deep when the redskins were trailing 13-10 in the 4th quarter. let's hope it's nothing more than teething problems. all in all, he hasn't done too badly
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:35 AM   #32
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"Campbell is a breath of fresh air here, but the gameplan still seems as conservative as when Brunell was behind center. i'm sure its because they don't want Campbell making mistakes, but turning him into another Brunell isn't the answer. 3 games in is still too little to let him loose, so i expect the same conservative gameplan that needs the defense to show up for us to win."


I dont see any thing wrong with the way Campbell is playing. Balls are getting delivered to the right receivers, he ins't throwing balls away after looking at one receiver. He is going through his reads better than Brunell was. Gibbs said that the Randel El TD was like his 4th read. He is stepping up in the pocket better than Brunell. Turning him into another Brunell,,, I think NOT!! Campbell is throwing the ball down the field, attempting to complete long balls, he is throwing over the middle. throwing for more than 10 and 15 yards. I think as time goes on, he will open up a little more of the passing game, but they just aren't going to do that in the kids first couple of games.
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Old 11-30-2006, 09:05 AM   #33
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you've got to question campbell's judgement after watching the carolina game, especially when he got picked off trying to go deep when the redskins were trailing 13-10 in the 4th quarter. let's hope it's nothing more than teething problems. all in all, he hasn't done too badly
I think you hit it. Some Newbie mistake are going to happen. For me personally, I fell better about JC than I have about any skins QB since...since......in a long time. Dude is cool, totally confident, throws the ball ON TIME. It's EXCELLENT to see
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you've got to question campbell's judgement after watching the carolina game, especially when he got picked off trying to go deep when the redskins were trailing 13-10 in the 4th quarter. let's hope it's nothing more than teething problems. all in all, he hasn't done too badly
Hey, a 4:1 TD to INT ratio is awesome for a "rookie" QB.

Delhomme's judgement is the judgement that should be questioned from that game, he SHOULD be better than that with all of the experience he has.

I'm very confident in Campbell.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:39 AM   #35
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Hey, a 4:1 TD to INT ratio is awesome for a "rookie" QB.

Delhomme's judgement is the judgement that should be questioned from that game, he SHOULD be better than that with all of the experience he has.

I'm very confident in Campbell.

I agree, Delhomme had a stinker against the Redskins, he did nothing for my fantasy team. :-) But I don't think that excuses Campbell's poor choice of plays at a crucial point in the 4th quarter when the Redskins were down 13-10, it could've cost Washington the match. As I say, I just hope it's nothing more than teething trouble and not something more fundamental.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:06 AM   #36
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reading NFL defenses separates good qbacks in this league from great ones. its all about experience
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:51 AM   #37
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As for the Duckett trade, I think generally most Falcon fans liked it. I however did not. I thought it was a mistake trading our most potent redzone weapon for a #3 WR. Lelie got off to a good start this year, which seemed to melt away my issues with the trade, but since the middle of the year has settled into the same inept malaise that the rest of our WRs have. I don't think it's a mere coincidence that the Falcons have struggled in scoring in the redzone all year long and not having Duckett on the roster.

I suspect Gibbs will give Duckett a chance this week to make the Falcons look really stupid, by giving him the ball 10-15 times and have him pound it down our throats.

As for the board bickering, doesn't bother me one bit. Over at the FalcFans board, you'll see the exact same thing. In fact, makes me feel a lot more comfortable.

Thanks for the responses on Campbell. I hope the Falcons win, but this team needs a really hard gut check, and I'm not sure going onto the road this week is optimal for it.
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:55 AM   #38
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Hey Pudge, what's your take on Duckett?

What are his strengths? Weaknesses? Do you think he could be a #1 back in this league?
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No SHIT! I'm out of this thread. It's all yours boys.:tongue
Seriously you needa can it with whole "you guys hate me, because you are men" blah blah blahhh. It is getting really old, really fast.

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Sorry to bring that up again lol, I just get into the thread when I am reading it, even if I am a day or so late.

Either way welcome to the board Pudge, you should most here more often, a respectful opposing fan's opinions are always welcomed.


And personally, I think Vick is the better QB, without a doubt. This is simply because Vick has much more experience in the NFL, versus Campbell's two games. He has lead his team to the playoffs a couple times, and he has single handled won games. Even though he is in consistent, you have to go with experience in this case.

That being said, I feel Campbell might have the potential to become a better QB than Vick in the future, but my analysis is based on the present.
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Vick is only good in the right offense
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Falcon fan here that will be at the game this week. Just wondering how has Campbell looked in his 2 starts, since I haven't had a chance to see him. From the stat lines he has looked pretty good, but I also noticed that the Redskins really haven't had any big completions in the past 2 weeks from their WRs. Guys are averaging under 10 yards per pass.

I'd like to say I think the Falcons can win this one, but I'm not so confident. While Campbell seemingly has brought fresh air to the Redskins offense, that is exactly what the Falcons are needing, and it doesn't look like it's going to come from Vick.
I just don't think Vick is ever going to be a consistent NFL QB. However his WR's are not helping his cause. I personally think the offense would run much smoother if they put in Schaub. Campbell has looked like a QB starting his 2nd NFL game. Some good and some bad. He looks a little rusty simply becasue he has not played a full game since college. But most importantly you can see flashes of his calm pocket presence, and pocket passing skills. These are qualities that I have not seen in Vick on a consistent basis and he's in his 5th or 6th year?
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As for the Duckett trade, I think generally most Falcon fans liked it. I however did not. I thought it was a mistake trading our most potent redzone weapon for a #3 WR. Lelie got off to a good start this year, which seemed to melt away my issues with the trade, but since the middle of the year has settled into the same inept malaise that the rest of our WRs have. I don't think it's a mere coincidence that the Falcons have struggled in scoring in the redzone all year long and not having Duckett on the roster.

I suspect Gibbs will give Duckett a chance this week to make the Falcons look really stupid, by giving him the ball 10-15 times and have him pound it down our throats.

As for the board bickering, doesn't bother me one bit. Over at the FalcFans board, you'll see the exact same thing. In fact, makes me feel a lot more comfortable.

Thanks for the responses on Campbell. I hope the Falcons win, but this team needs a really hard gut check, and I'm not sure going onto the road this week is optimal for it.
I didn't get a chance to see if you wrote anything else about Vick. On your Falcons boards I'm assuming there's a huge Vick vs. Schaub controversy. What's the general opinion on Vick? I think a lot of us here know he's not ever going to be a great pocket passer but he CAN win games. While he does the amazing with his feet, he'll never been anything besides an above average QB. But above average QBs CAN and DO win football games.
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If you are going to bring it up again, then I’m going to reply- There are plenty of men on here that do just what I said - they use sexist statements to light a fire under me. It's the truth and I call it as I see it. I LOVE FOOTBALL and I'll argue all damn day about FOOTBALL, but don't tell me I'm arguing with you because it's a "bad time of the month, or because I'm playing a victim or I'm a drama queen!" All of you on here at one time or another have blown a fuse and unfortunately I can't blame it on the time of the month, or on your “female emotions” ! If you use statements like that, then EXPECT me to say that I'm sick the damn "man card" being played. That's bullshit!
See the thing is, when we say those "sexist" comments we are joking. When you pull the "man card" it is usually when you are storming away, after you have been owned in an arguement. The thing is, when someone counters a point that you make, either counter it back with facts, aknowledge that they are correct, or do not say anything. Don't come back saying "Oh why do you put down whatever I say??? Its just my opinion, blah blah".

You get way too emotion when someone proves you wrong or goes agaisnt you, but it really is no big deal, its a freaking forum, so that is what is gonna happen. You really shouldn't take everything as personally as you do.
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