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Old 12-01-2006, 04:56 PM   #1
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Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?

WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games.
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Old 12-01-2006, 04:57 PM   #2
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Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?

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WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games.
I think you need to start a few more threads...
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Old 12-01-2006, 04:58 PM   #3
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Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?

He has shown some promise but hasn't even throw for 200 yards in a game yet. I'm still in the not sure category.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:06 PM   #4
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by next year we'll want to hang him if he isn't PERFECT.
I hope the fans give him a little more time since he is Gibbs guy. I LOVE what I see fom him now because I see the talent. He has missed some throws but he made the big one when it counted. That being said, I'm not totally sold on him yet. I was a huge Ramsey fan after his first game when he played great and look where he ended up!
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:10 PM   #5
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Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?

wait and see. he still has a lot of accuracy problems to work out. the other stuff and redzone passing are fine though, which is encouraging.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:11 PM   #6
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i think Campbell wil have a good game vs the falcons, over 260 yards 3TDs
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I hope the fans give him a little more time since he is Gibbs guy. I LOVE what I see fom him now because I see the talent. He has missed some throws but he made the big one when it counted. That being said, I'm not totally sold on him yet. I was a huge Ramsey fan after his first game when he played great and look where he ended up!
Jason Campbell has struggled in his first two starts like you would expect ANY guy getting his first few starts to do. That said, he's obviously shown the poise and leadership to make be believe that he will fufill his statistical projection and be a great player for years to come.

I think theres an inherent difference between him and Ramsey. One obvious thing is that I think both his talent and expectations far exceed what Ramsey had to deal with. Secondly, I think he's in a much better situation. He's not getting blasted every play, and he has better coaching than Ramsey did.

Ramsey was an average starting NFL QB and I expect Campbell to exceed that soon. By this time next year, I feel the differences between Campbell and Ramsey should be clear.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:15 PM   #8
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Also it's important to remember that this guy is NOT some wide eyed rookie. He's a player who is deep into his 2nd season. Trust me, it makes a difference.
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WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games.
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Jason Campbell has struggled in his first two starts like you would expect ANY guy getting his first few starts to do. That said, he's obviously shown the poise and leadership to make be believe that he will fufill his statistical projection and be a great player for years to come.

I think theres an inherent difference between him and Ramsey. One obvious thing is that I think both his talent and expectations far exceed what Ramsey had to deal with. Secondly, I think he's in a much better situation. He's not getting blasted every play, and he has better coaching than Ramsey did.

Ramsey was an average starting NFL QB and I expect Campbell to exceed that soon. By this time next year, I feel the differences between Campbell and Ramsey should be clear.
How much do you think the situation hurt Ramsey? I think it was the reason he wasn't a great QB. He had the arm, the smarts, and toughness to play the position. Playing in an offense that was basically not worried a bit about protecting the qb ruined his confidence. I will always believe that Spurrier ruined that kid.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:29 PM   #11
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WHat do you guys think .

in my eyes the guy is the man 4td 1 in in 2 games.

In the latest issue of SI it says that Campbell is one of 4 QB's to ever throw for 2 or more TD's in each of his 2 first starts. The funny thing was that 3 of the 4 were Redskins. I think Rypien was one and of course JC.
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How much do you think the situation hurt Ramsey? I think it was the reason he wasn't a great QB. He had the arm, the smarts, and toughness to play the position. Playing in an offense that was basically not worried a bit about protecting the qb ruined his confidence. I will always believe that Spurrier ruined that kid.
I don't think it broke him. I don't think he let all the pressure break his confidence, and thats a tribute to his toughness.

I think what it hurt most was his learning curve. It was hard for him to make a week to week improvement back in 2003 because Spurrier was more worried about making his system work than he was about protecting his QB. I think Spurrier ruined his season, and retarded his growth...but I don't think he broke him as a player.

He didn't improve statistically much under Gibbs in 2004, even when I expected him to. I think he was just an average player with above average toughness.
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ramsey's problem was simple - he didn't EVER throw over the top, every pass was a javelin thrown AFTER the WR got open.

he never anticipated breaks or threw arcs until gibbs came in. it's another example of an NFL front office falling in love with a guy's fastball.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:10 PM   #14
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Re: Jason Campbell the man or wait and see ?

lets wait and see im not totally sold, but he has alot of composure and a hell of an arm
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lets wait and see im not totally sold, but he has alot of composure and a hell of an arm
not totally sold on carlosrogerisdaman being kidwell or Jason Campbell being the man?
To take kidwell's shoes you need a ton of composure when everyone is all over you, and probably need one hell of an arm to have 58 on your first day(his second arm and hand are probably being used for hand relief).
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