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Old 12-03-2006, 09:52 PM   #16
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Our backup running back rushed for 150+. What is there to adjust. We didn't execute in the passing game, plain and simple.
He can run for 500 yards doesn't mean anything if you cannot score.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:53 PM   #17
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Re: Where are the Saunders defenders?

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Yeah your being very objective.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:59 PM   #18
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The Adamant Al Saunders Advocate (hooskins)
Yeah your being very objective.
Haha you take my "title" seriously but you continue to ignore my arguments hahhaaa.

I have made my position very clear, and I have supported it in various posts today. I am not going to waste my energy going back and showing them to you again.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:31 PM   #19
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He can run for 500 yards doesn't mean anything if you cannot score.
It means the playcalling was good.

Offenses cannot directly control how much they score, that is no player or team has a stronger "points" gene than another. You can be good at football, a good playcaller, a good runner, a good passer, a good tackler, etc. But the amount of points you score is determined in many cases by factors one offense/playcaller cannot control, such as how well the defense is playing, or how far you have to go to score.

But if you get 500 rushing yards, I don't care who you are, your OC called a hell of a game.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:35 PM   #20
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14 points. All the 1# offensive cordinator can produce is no points in the 2nd half. Please tell me that JC is to blame and not the almighty offensive guru. 14 points weak.
JC is to blame and not the almighty offensive guru.
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Old 12-04-2006, 06:50 AM   #21
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Re: Where are the Saunders defenders?

Hard for me to blame either. This seemed like classic Gibbs to me. We marched down twice for scores, no problem. Offense was rolling. All of a sudden we completely stop passing, then fall behind, and put our young QB in passing only situations. A 2nd year guy being forced to pass every play towards the end of the 4th is kinda rough.

Campbell also had a few bad drops. But the reason we have Campbell in now is to learn. In my opinion, the young guy has played well. Anyone that was thinking playoffs last week was dillusional.
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Old 12-04-2006, 06:59 AM   #22
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Hard for me to blame either. This seemed like classic Gibbs to me. We marched down twice for scores, no problem. Offense was rolling. All of a sudden we completely stop passing, then fall behind, and put our young QB in passing only situations. A 2nd year guy being forced to pass every play towards the end of the 4th is kinda rough.

Campbell also had a few bad drops. But the reason we have Campbell in now is to learn. In my opinion, the young guy has played well. Anyone that was thinking playoffs last week was dillusional.
I agree D. This game is all on Gibbs. They start out running and get away from it to their demise, sure AS calls plays but Gibbs is the head coach who can talk into the headset to AS and tell him to stick to the run. AS is only doing what he was brought here to do its up to Gibbs to manage AS with respect to the talent on the team. Gibbs is failing miserably at this task.
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:21 AM   #23
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Re: Where are the Saunders defenders?

Did anyone watch this game????? Saunders is making Norv Turner look great.

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1. We are down by 10 in the 4th qtr. and he runs the ball from the 5 yard line. 6 minutes left on the clock and Betts gains 3 yards. WTF???
2. 2nd qtr. we just drove the ball down the field twice for TD's. Alot of runs and a few passes ( 12 runs and 2 passes = 14) So the idiot goes pass, end around, pass, punt. Sonny asked Gibbs why they got away from the game plan and Gibbs says they stuck to it and he did not know what Sonny was talking about. Sonny does not press him as this is what he was thinking, he says so after Gibbs leaves the interview. Pass - Reverse - Pass come on you have got to be kidding Al, you just rammed it down their throat 14 plays for 14 points and now you start throwing???
3. NExt series we go back to the run and try a field goal. Long field goal but how did we get ther. RUNNING THE BALL. The next series after this we go back to the all pass because apparently Al thinks we are behind, except for a 1st down on a pass on a 2 and 10. Then 3 more passes and punt. So 5 and out here.
4. The last example is on the one with the clock stopped with 2nd and goal to go. Throws then runs. Can't ram it in because apparently we can not run against this team, then lets the clock run after running a draw on 3 down so rush to the line on 4th and throw a dead ball. That is what does it for me. That series of play calling was the nail in the coffin. FIRE AL, ship his butt back to KC.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:25 AM   #24
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Re: Where are the Saunders defenders?

It seems to me that the Skins should have known exactly what they are getting when they signed Saunders - they didn't sign him thinking that he would be calling a straight up running game. The guy has been a very successful offensive coordinator playing the game in a pretty specific way which is what the Skins hired. Now, it turns out the we currently don't have the personnel to carry this out and it may be that we should have hired more of a 'Joe Gibbs/Redskin' type guy - hardly Saunders's fault.

However, give the guy and the players time. JC is going to improve and I believe that we have the weapons to make it work. Let's see how the rest of this season and all of next season goes before calling for Saunder's head.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:31 AM   #25
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Did anyone watch this game????? Saunders is making Norv Turner look great.

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1. We are down by 10 in the 4th qtr. and he runs the ball from the 5 yard line. 6 minutes left on the clock and Betts gains 3 yards. WTF???
2. 2nd qtr. we just drove the ball down the field twice for TD's. Alot of runs and a few passes ( 12 runs and 2 passes = 14) So the idiot goes pass, end around, pass, punt. Sonny asked Gibbs why they got away from the game plan and Gibbs says they stuck to it and he did not know what Sonny was talking about. Sonny does not press him as this is what he was thinking, he says so after Gibbs leaves the interview. Pass - Reverse - Pass come on you have got to be kidding Al, you just rammed it down their throat 14 plays for 14 points and now you start throwing???
3. NExt series we go back to the run and try a field goal. Long field goal but how did we get ther. RUNNING THE BALL. The next series after this we go back to the all pass because apparently Al thinks we are behind, except for a 1st down on a pass on a 2 and 10. Then 3 more passes and punt. So 5 and out here.
4. The last example is on the one with the clock stopped with 2nd and goal to go. Throws then runs. Can't ram it in because apparently we can not run against this team, then lets the clock run after running a draw on 3 down so rush to the line on 4th and throw a dead ball. That is what does it for me. That series of play calling was the nail in the coffin. FIRE AL, ship his butt back to KC.
Not Al's fault. Gibbs is to blame. Gibbs is the one making Norv and for that matter OBC look great.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:32 AM   #26
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Re: Where are the Saunders defenders?

Why is Al excused from blame?

Of course everything goes back to Gibbs, but you just can't say Saunders shares no blame in all of this because Gibbs hired him.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:37 AM   #27
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I dont this AS is blame free (even though he's trying to do what he was brought here to do), I think all the coaches are to blame but Gibbs is the Head coach, he has the ultimate say. When he says we got away from doing what we need to do, thats his fault. He needs to keep the team pointed in the right direction during the game and keep them doing waht they need to do. If a coach goes away from that Gibbs needs to tell him and get the team back to doing what it needs to do, if not he should get off the sideline. IMO Gibbs has failed at his job as head coach.
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:31 PM   #28
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Gibbs is the one making Norv and for that matter OBC look great.
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:55 PM   #29
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Who's fault is it when Cooley is wide open on two plays which one would have been a TD a Campbell throws to a covered Moss with no preasur on him. Even the announcers pointed out those plays. How many more oper WR's did he miss. No I'm not blamming JC because its only his 3rd game and thats what you get from a new QB.
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:01 PM   #30
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Re: Where are the Saunders defenders?

DGreen, are you the same guy I saw holding up a sign that said "Fire" Al Saunder last week? (It was written exactly like that.)

I only ask because the whole having the word fire in quotes made no sense to me and I wasn't sure why the person left of the last S. Was it for 'savings'?

Saunders isn't looking good now but getting rid of him would be a mistake, IMO. We'd be forcing our young QB to learn yet another system, which will just take more time, which will lead to more bitching. Plus, I doubt the success he had in KC was a huge fluke.
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