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Old 12-05-2006, 11:12 AM   #61
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Trade deadline has passed, and it would make little to no sense for another team to try & deal for him now when he'd be a fa in march. Only way that makes sense is if a team really thinks it will be a bidding war
You can't trade him now - I'm talking about signing him so that we could trade him after the season. If we let him walk, we get nothing. It doesn't have to be a bidding war - Snyder can afford to pay a little premium on Betts now in order to be able to trade him for something down the road. It's better than nothing.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:18 AM   #62
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Re: So Will We Have The Money For Betts????

I felt like Betts started changing direction better (than I've seen before) sometime during the Carolina game. Comments?
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:20 AM   #63
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I would definitely prefer to see them let Betts go. I wouldn't want us to tie up valuable cap space in a guy that we could easily replace. I mean, we're talking about a #2 back. What are the chances CP is going to go down again next year? He's been pretty consistent health wise throughout his career.

We could easily get a #2 back through the draft for less money. Look at how many young backs have been successful this year...Norwood(ugh), Maurice-Drew, Maroney, Addai, Bell, and D. Williams. I'm sure there are others. Some of those may have been first rounders, but surely we could find a solid #2 in the later rounds.

I'm not saying I want Betts to leave, I just don't want us to tie up alot of money in him when he'll see minimal playing time when CP is healthy.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:22 AM   #64
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Re: So Will We Have The Money For Betts????

If by "consistent" you mean "banged up", then, yes, CP's health has been consistent. He was a couple of hits away from the IR at the end of last season, too.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:03 PM   #65
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Re: So Will We Have The Money For Betts????

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You can't trade him now - I'm talking about signing him so that we could trade him after the season. If we let him walk, we get nothing. It doesn't have to be a bidding war - Snyder can afford to pay a little premium on Betts now in order to be able to trade him for something down the road. It's better than nothing.
possible, but a contract would have to be signed that would be cap friendly if we were to trade him, something his agent is unlikely to advise him to do, since then he would have less control over his destiny. If we trade him but take a cap hit it we may still lose more.
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Old 12-05-2006, 12:26 PM   #66
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Unless it's a short-term contract (1-2 years). I'm not sure I understand how the Skins could structure this contract so that it both (1) benefits them if they want to trade Betts and (2) is something that Betts would actually sign. However, I stopped second-guessing Danny-boy's ability to structure contracts so as to minimize cap hits a long time ago.
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I felt like Betts started changing direction better (than I've seen before) sometime during the Carolina game. Comments?
I think he's always been a very good one cut back. He's quick to hit holes and he's generally pretty decisive. After that one cut he doesn't offer much in the open field other than a spin move here or there.
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If by "consistent" you mean "banged up", then, yes, CP's health has been consistent. He was a couple of hits away from the IR at the end of last season, too.

What running back isn't banged up by the end of the year? He practically carried us into the playoffs last year while rushing for over 1500 yds, again. On 352 carries no less. He played in all 16 games and two playoff games, no IR. So yeah, in my opinion, he has been pretty consistent when it comes to being healthy. He's just been unlucky this year with injuries.
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I think he's always been a very good one cut back. He's quick to hit holes and he's generally pretty decisive. After that one cut he doesn't offer much in the open field other than a spin move here or there.
I couldn't agree more. Plus he doesn't seem to break too many tackles. For his size I would think he would be a just a bit tougher to bring down.
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Old 12-05-2006, 01:24 PM   #70
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What running back isn't banged up by the end of the year? He practically carried us into the playoffs last year while rushing for over 1500 yds, again. On 352 carries no less. He played in all 16 games and two playoff games, no IR. So yeah, in my opinion, he has been pretty consistent when it comes to being healthy. He's just been unlucky this year with injuries.
Who said he didn't carry us into the playoffs? It doesn't mean he wasn't playing hurt. He's a trooper, no doubt, but that doesn't change the fact that he wore down a lot last year, had a rash of injuries this year, and could use the backup help to reduce his workload.
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Get draft picks for him.........portis is better no matter what anyone says. Although I have loved Bett's performance over the last few weeks.


It's not likely we'll get DP for a player that's going to be a free agent in just a few more weeks. Since Portis is our #1 back, I don't know how much the team is willing to pay Betts who will still be a back-up if signed. He's obviously playing for a contract, and while his play has been inspired the last couple weeks, he's still lacking the one thing he needs to be a every down back in this league, and that's blocking. He can run, and he can catch, but blocking in the passing game is where he's lacking, and Portis excells. We have a dilema on our hands, going into the off season with two running backs (both back-up's) in a contract year.
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yea hes a beast id like to see him stay but not a starting job over cp
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The title of this thread shold be "will we have any money left (under the salary cap) after we sign Betts."
I want Betts on the team, but for a reasonable amount of money.

Matty- It is proven every year runningback is the easiest position to fill in the draft. It is the easiest position for an NCAA player to transfer quickly into the NFL. Other posititions takes more time to develop.

Our number 1 priority this coming offseason is improving the defense. Offensive players, especially runningbacks are easier to find than good, young, cheap defensive players.
Lets not break the bank to sign a backup RB. We have a history of overpaying for players. Lets stop that trend.
Exactly. Defense is and should be the # priority.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:46 PM   #74
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Re: So Will We Have The Money For Betts????

Since you put it that way, I can see where you're coming from. With that many carries I guess the chances of him missing soem time are greater. And I don't see JG reducing the touches next year.
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You can't trade him now - I'm talking about signing him so that we could trade him after the season. If we let him walk, we get nothing. It doesn't have to be a bidding war - Snyder can afford to pay a little premium on Betts now in order to be able to trade him for something down the road. It's better than nothing.
If we sign him and trade him, we eat his entire signing bonus under the 07 cap (or we can split it with 08, our choice). It makes little sense to sign him and then turn around and deal him. If you give him the bonus, you might as well play him.

We could give him a one year deal with no signing bonus, but he's not going to sign a deal that makes it easy for us to trade him if he can just sign somewhere else.

If you let him walk, you get nothing, but you also stay out of an even worse situation with the cap, which should be our goal next year.
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