Not enough protection for Campbell along with Campbell's inexperience=offensive woes

hooskins · 12-06-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

That's where we miss Portis in the backfield, and Betts shows his liability, a couple of plays in Sunday's game is an example of what I'm talking about.

Yeah I agree, most people dont realize how good Portis actually is.

skinsguy · 12-06-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Thoughts?

What about how low Campbell has to squat under center? That has to slow him down even more. He has to go from that position into his back pedal, and then the long wind up to pass the ball. The pass protection has to be perfect to allow that much time from Center - QB exchange to Campbell passing.

hooskins · 12-06-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

What about how low Campbell has to squat under center? That has to slow him down even more. He has to go from that position into his back pedal, and then the long wind up to pass the ball. The pass protection has to be perfect to allow that much time from Center - QB exchange to Campbell passing.

I noticed that too, and I realize he is tall, but I have never seen tall QBs squatting like they are gonna take a dump.

hooskins · 12-06-2006, 03:49 PM

skinsguy · 12-06-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I noticed that too, and I realize he is tall, but I have never seen tall QBs squatting like they are gonna take a dump.

Doug Williams was tall and never had to squat that low...and he had a similar wind up. I wonder if there is anyway of training Casey to not squat so low or if maybe he is just a short guy to begin with? Brunell had the same problem as well.

railcon56 · 12-07-2006, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Doug Williams was tall and never had to squat that low...and he had a similar wind up. I wonder if there is anyway of training Casey to not squat so low or if maybe he is just a short guy to begin with? Brunell had the same problem as well.

maybe a lower center makes for a better snap/exchange?

railcon56 · 12-07-2006, 04:48 AM

I know our coach was always yelling....get ur butt down before you catch a cold...

Mattyk · 12-07-2006, 08:34 AM

Cutler has to do the same thing in Denver with Tom Nalen. Nalen also sets up pretty low.

Not sure what you can do about it. Do you really want the center to change his stance? Rabach is on the tall side for a center (6-4), so I'm sure the main reason his stance is low is for leverage purposes.

jdlea · 12-07-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Another point that most people here seem to miss is that Betts and Sellers seem to whiff their blocks when they are suppose to protect JC. I think JC got pressured even more because Portis was a great blocker, much better than Betts.

The Redskins are nothing without Portis. I still can't believe people want him out of here.

That's the point I was gonna make. The last pick Campbell threw, he got layed out by an unblocked linebacker while Betts tried to help on a Coleman (I think) who was already being double teamed. He can't block to save his life. That's why he's not a #1 back, that and he pretty just runs to daylight and then doesn't break enough tackles. He hits the right wholes, makes nice cutbacks, but never really seems like he's anything to fear for a D. I know he ran for 155 and a TD, but he sucked at blocking/picking up the blitz and just didn't really make a lot of meaningful runs after the first quarter.

Dogtag · 12-07-2006, 08:59 AM

At the risk of being branded a Redskins heretic, JC is still a project. I hope he develops into a hall of fame quarterback for the Redskins; however, he is not playing well now.

We can list all the excuses for this that might make us feel better, but the bottom line is that we have a novice NFL QB that is not rocking the NFL world right now.

Waleo · 12-07-2006, 10:34 AM

If the ran a couple of screens ATL would of had to calm down on there blitzes. When I say screen passes I'm talking about screens to the RB.

skinsguy · 12-07-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by railcon56

maybe a lower center makes for a better snap/exchange?

I don't know, you could be right. Probably makes it better for the Center, but it just seems like it would be harder for a quarterback to drop back as fast as he needs to. Notice how Vick doesn't seem to get nearly as low and has one leg out behind. As soon as the ball is snaped he's in much better position to drop back to pass or to run with it.

The Zimmermans · 12-07-2006, 10:51 AM

Yeah, not sure why we didnt run screens or that quick slant once they started blitzing

skinsguy · 12-07-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Yeah, not sure why we didnt run screens or that quick slant once they started blitzing

I know we tried one screen that just looked horrible from the get go, but I think it might have been a screen to Mike Sellers or Cooley and not Betts. I can't remember though.

The Zimmermans · 12-07-2006, 11:09 AM

The playaction was really slowing the development of the plays, and with their all out blitzing scheme, the PA shoulda been thrown out the window in the second half.

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Waleo Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: PG county Posts: 32	Re: Not enough protection for Campbell along with Campbell's inexperience=offensive w If the ran a couple of screens ATL would of had to calm down on there blitzes. When I say screen passes I'm talking about screens to the RB. __________________ *Check out* *www.demskins.com. A skins blog for the true skins fan!***

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The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 28 Posts: 937	Re: Not enough protection for Campbell along with Campbell's inexperience=offensive w The playaction was really slowing the development of the plays, and with their all out blitzing scheme, the PA shoulda been thrown out the window in the second half. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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