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Old 12-08-2006, 01:45 PM   #46
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Are u kidding me? Golston has played OK. He's a rookie so he's a keeper. Evans has totally regressed. No pass rush pressure which is his strength. Montgomery and Boschetti? No thanks.
Montgomery is also a rookie, just like Golston. Boschetti is so-so overall, I agree. I like Evans, in the right situations I think he can do and does do pretty good.

The point is we do have young linemen that we can develop. I agree though that we need another stud in the middle, not quite a superstar but close to it.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:47 PM   #47
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Are u kidding me? Golston has played OK. He's a rookie so he's a keeper. Evans has totally regressed. No pass rush pressure which is his strength. Montgomery and Boschetti? No thanks.
Yet, you're basing your Betts argument on one exceptional game...
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Wasn't Boschetti cut and replaced on the roster by Suisham?
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First of all, stop comparing now to 3 years ago. Second, he didn't wanna be here. He was tired of all of the coaching changes. I think he also saw what LaVar has said a lot, we just don't like to hear it. They also weren't in the business of paying their own guys and keeping them then. And, if you think Archuletta, Randle El, Carter, Lloyd, Portis, or anyone they gave big contracts to will see the end of them you're completely out of your mind. That's "the business side of football" that everyone thinks the Skins are so good at.
There were a lot of more personal issues behind Champ's leaving that had little, if nothing, to do with how the organization was run. I know because I was dealing with the Redskins on a near daily basis back in those days.
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Wasn't Boschetti cut and replaced on the roster by Suisham?
They cut Novak and brought Bosch back
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There were a lot of more personal issues behind Champ's leaving that had little, if nothing, to do with how the organization was run. I know because I was dealing with the Redskins on a near daily basis back in those days.
I figured it was something like that, but I wasn't sure. I just know he didn't wanna come back and no amount of money was keeping him here.
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Yet, you're basing your Betts argument on one exceptional game...
NO. Everytime Betts has filled in for Portis he has played well. For the most part he always comes in and does well.
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They cut Novak and brought Bosch back
Shame on me, I must pay more attention.
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First of all, stop comparing now to 3 years ago. Second, he didn't wanna be here. He was tired of all of the coaching changes. I think he also saw what LaVar has said a lot, we just don't like to hear it. They also weren't in the business of paying their own guys and keeping them then. And, if you think Archuletta, Randle El, Carter, Lloyd, Portis, or anyone they gave big contracts to will see the end of them you're completely out of your mind. That's "the business side of football" that everyone thinks the Skins are so good at.
The problems of the past are why this team is not very good now.
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NO. Everytime Betts has filled in for Portis he has played well. For the most part he always comes in and does well.
4.1 yards per carry for his career isn't exactly playing well. Niether are the 2 td's he's amassed this season...giving him 8 total for his career.
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NO. Everytime Betts has filled in for Portis he has played well. For the most part he always comes in and does well.
Except for the fumbles, missed blocks, and random injuries...
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Yet, you're basing your Betts argument on one exceptional game...
Stats time again. Prior to this season, how many games has Ladell had at least 20 carries in a contest? Exactly twice. Twice in a four year span, twice in 48 games.

Not coincidentally (IMO), anyway, in both games he got 20 or more carries, he went for a hunny and hit paydirt.

In '06, he's had three games with 20+ carries, and went for 100+ in 2 of them. He made up for the Philly game in which he only got 83, by dropping 124/1TD on Houston earlier in the year on 16 carries.
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The problems of the past are why this team is not very good now.
It's hard to say why they're not very good right now. I mean, seriously, they went to the playoffs last season. Tell me what you would have done differently this offseason or come up with something that could have actually happened then. Keeping Champ was out of the question. We've shown you tons of reasons why Betts couldn't have been the #1. Come up with a real reason why the trade shouldn't have happened.
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Stats time again. Prior to this season, how many games has Ladell had at least 20 carries in a contest? Exactly twice. Twice in a four year span, twice in 48 games.

Not coincidentally (IMO), anyway, in both games he got 20 or more carries, he went for a hunny and hit paydirt.

In '06, he's had three games with 20+ carries, and went for 100+ in 2 of them. He made up for the Philly game in which he only got 83, by dropping 124/1TD on Houston earlier in the year on 16 carries.
While we're basing things on the Houston game...let's put Brunell back in!

Seriously though, he is usually hurt. He missed some of the preseason this year too. He's only once played in more than 12 games. He'll do it this year, but that's only twice in 5 years.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:10 PM   #60
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My biggest complaint with the trade was Gibbs's willingness to toss in a high 2nd round pick (that ended up being Tatum Bell). True shutdown corners capable of holding their own without help are MUCH harder to come by than great running backs. If anything, Denver should have been giving us extra draft choices.
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