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Bill B Presents TMC's Pick the Position Poll

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View Poll Results: What Position Is Our Most Pressing Need?
CB 42 40.00%
S 5 4.76%
DE 32 30.48%
DT 15 14.29%
LB 8 7.62%
OT 1 0.95%
OG 1 0.95%
K 1 0.95%
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:40 PM   #61
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I think DE who can really get after the passer. To me that's been a glaring weakness for a long time. More pressure up front can make an average DB look a lot better.
Here's the problem with that. We already have Andre Carter who has great physical pass rushing skills. So espicially in GW's defense, the LE has to be able to anchor the run. If we can find a guy who can anchor the run and rush the passer and do both as well as anyone in the league, I'd love to have him, but I'm not sure such player exists.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:40 PM   #62
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I said DE, without question.

I would give Carlos one more year before giving up on him. I think if this guy can focus on catching his stock will go way up. The entire defense has had it's woes. Springs? I don't think he's old as some would suggest. He's what, 31-32 yrs old...his issue is staying healthy, not age at this point.

We need a DE to help create some pressure up front. Have you noticed how the Bears and Ravens get so many turnovers? Their secondary isn't full of pro bowlers, but they get in the QBs face and force errors.
Ditto. We really need some thugs coming off the edges. I wish we could have drafted Merriman. That guy is a frickin monster. Just disrupting everything. Looks like the closest thing to LT.
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we need a DE and a LB..... and a CB...............and a DT...............................................a nd a S. we need almost one of each.
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If carlos rodgers could catch (the man can't catch a cold) he would have 5 or 6 Int and on his way to the probowl. altough he does get burnt he does cover pretty well.
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we need a DE and a LB..... and a CB...............and a DT...............................................a nd a S. we need almost one of each.
Can't get all the groceries in one year. Some of these guys are just going to have to pick up their performace.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:55 PM   #66
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i know but we do need them.
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Can't get all the groceries in one year. Some of these guys are just going to have to pick up their performace.
Which is you attack what you can, and try to get by despite your weaknesses.

That's why I wouldn't draft a CB even if we cant get a Nate Clements in FA. You only have a limited amount of money, so fix the issues up front and hope that the secondary can get it done.
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Well, we're only a million under the cap, and the shopping list you just presented works out to.... hold on, let me crunch the numbers.... 21 million... no problem, fire up Redskin One and let's get going.
OK well those numbers are just blatantly wrong. We're currently 5 million under the cap, we can easily shed $5 million by cutting guys like John Hall and clearing TJ Duckett's voidable season off our 2007 numbers, and there is about $20-$25 million in base salaries that can/will be restructured to free up cap space.

We should have $10-$15 million in space, at minimum, to work with this offseason. Hell, we could even cut Archuleta, absorb the huge cap hit, and still grab a free agent or two.

And there's no way three players will take up $21 million in cap space. ARE, Carter, Lloyd, and Archuleta combined to take up $6 million in cap space in 2006.
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Agreed, and over the last two days, you've changed by opinion from "we need to draft a DE" to "we need to draft a DT." I still believe that we need to inject some youth at the DE position, but anchoring DEs can be found on the draft's second day. Also, we are pretty much stuck with Carter at the RE now and IMO he doesnt really fit in to Grilliams' scheme, although he can be a decent player for us for years.

I think we should scour free agency for a shutdown corner, but if we don't find one, we might as well stick with what we have. Sure it's risky to look the thing that killed you this season right in the eye and say that it can't screw you two years in a row, but if Nate Clements slips through our fingers, who are we going to bring in that would be an upgrade to Shawn Springs?
Clements is the only guy in free agency that would be worth pursuing. He fits Grilliams' style, big and physical.

I'm thinking we've got to draft a DT or a CB with our real high pick (or trade it down and try to get both).
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OK well those numbers are just blatantly wrong...
It was a joke. Some of you guys scare me with the way you keep cap numbers ready at a moment's notice.
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OK well those numbers are just blatantly wrong. We're currently 5 million under the cap, we can easily shed $5 million by cutting guys like John Hall and clearing TJ Duckett's voidable season off our 2007 numbers, and there is about $20-$25 million in base salaries that can/will be restructured to free up cap space.

We should have $10-$15 million in space, at minimum, to work with this offseason. Hell, we could even cut Archuleta, absorb the huge cap hit, and still grab a free agent or two.

And there's no way three players will take up $21 million in cap space. ARE, Carter, Lloyd, and Archuleta combined to take up $6 million in cap space in 2006.
Don't forget that Ladell's cap number for 2007 will be in the ballpark of $3 million.
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Here's the problem with that. We already have Andre Carter who has great physical pass rushing skills. So espicially in GW's defense, the LE has to be able to anchor the run. If we can find a guy who can anchor the run and rush the passer and do both as well as anyone in the league, I'd love to have him, but I'm not sure such player exists.
Yeah that's the thing. With DE, we have Carter who has the mad pass rushing skills, but I don't think Grilliams is ever really taking the reins off Carter. He's not going to have 15 sacks in Grilliams' system. If Freeney were a Redskin, he wouldn't get more than 10 sacks here because Grilliams makes them play gap control to be mindful of stopping the run.

Our DEs have good talent to stop the run (I was nervous about Carter but he's showing me some things lately) and they can rush the passer OK. It's the age of Daniels and Wynn that's a bit concerning; they're both still effective now when healthy, but they don't have too many years left. Two-way DEs are indeed very hard to find, and if we get a shot at one it's hard to pass up. But same goes for DTs, and a true shut-down CB is nearly impossible to find these days, the only one alive right now is Champ.
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Don't forget that Ladell's cap number for 2007 will be in the ballpark of $3 million.
Sounds to me it'll be more like $1.5 mill, but yeah I get what you're saying. Gotta factor him in.

Plus we have to plan to resign Dock, and if the 'Skins were smart they'd resign Cooley too.

I love the Betts contract by the way. That's a relative bargain all around. Great move by the 'Skins. See what happens when we retain our players? If you resign them before they hit the open market, you're getting to them before the agents start filling their heads with grandiose expectations of massive paydays. Players are like anyone else, they like to feel settled and secure. Betts was willing to trade a chance at a bigger payday for the knowledge that he'll be here for the forseeable future.
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I love the Betts contract by the way. That's a relative bargain all around. Great move by the 'Skins. See what happens when we retain our players? If you resign them before they hit the open market, you're getting to them before the agents start filling their heads with grandiose expectations of massive paydays. Players are like anyone else, they like to feel settled and secure. Betts was willing to trade a chance at a bigger payday for the knowledge that he'll be here for the forseeable future.
Careful, you're likely to invite a tsunami of criticism by suggesting Betts has any value to the team other than to hold CP's jock when he's not using it.

Some guys truly don't think that Ladell wouldn't have gotten PAID on the free market. As if we're the only team that reaches hard and vastly overpays for FA's. We just do that for every position, indiscriminately. A lot of other franchises do it once every few years or so, usually at RB or QB.
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After 13 games, "mad pass rushing skills" gets you three whole sacks?
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