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Old 12-18-2006, 02:58 PM   #16
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I thought it was a good throw, but a better sign of things to come. Lloyd was so intent on getting deep that he kind of dropped his head and just ran, and he couldn't locate the ball. If Lloyd saw the ball sooner he could have adjusted and made the catch, probably the prettiest incomplete pass of the day.
It's hard to tell what the route was. If he was supposed to come back inside, then it was a bad pass. If he was supposed to look to the sideline, then it was almost perfect. Either way, Lloyd might have been able to adjust to it if he had looked back sooner.
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Old 12-18-2006, 02:59 PM   #17
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It seems like especially yesterday, that we tend to get more conservative when in the red zone. Do you think Joe plays more of a role once in the red zone? You are right i think they were trying to limit JC's mistakes yesterday and called mostly runs. I'm sure it was part of the game plan although they threw deep often in the middle of the field, so go figure.
B. Mitchell said on the post game show that once the skins pass the opposing teams 35yd line that Gibbs gets involved in the play calling. This is probably why the skins keep stalling, once they get into the 35yd line there are constant delay of game calls, false starts, and the continuity that the offense had driving down the field completely goes to crap. If he is going to let Saunders run the offense, then he should let him run it. Oh yeah and can we please stop running that sweep play, Betts is running up the gut for 8,9,12 yds per carry then we do that stupid sweep and lose a yard or two!
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I'm not sure I believe B Mitch about that--Gibbs hasn't said he does that. My guess is that they've scaled back their playcalls in the redzone--it is a different part of the playbook, and it's not surprising that JC doesn't have it all yet. Also, Gibbs may have said--look, don't turn it over down there--get what points you can. BUt I doubt he starts calling plays when they get to a certain point on the field--that would be super disruptive, and would mess up Saunders.
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Oh yeah and can we please stop running that sweep play, Betts is running up the gut for 8,9,12 yds per carry then we do that stupid sweep and lose a yard or two![/FONT]
I've been saying this for weeks! I will never understand that call.
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I've been saying this for weeks! I will never understand that call.
The sweep isn't always designed for it to be a huge gainer. If you are getting 8,9,12 yds up the middle then you have to run outside to keep defenses honest and not pinch the DL and rush the OLB in the tackle/guard gap.. If you catch them in a inside stunt that's a long td run most of the time..
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:24 PM   #21
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First time poster but long time reader of warpath message boards. I would like to know how many people think JC can be a top 5 quarterback a few years down the road. I am hopeful, but there is still a lot of progress that needs to be made.
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First time poster but long time reader of warpath message boards. I would like to know how many people think JC can be a top 5 quarterback a few years down the road. I am hopeful, but there is still a lot of progress that needs to be made.
It's way too soon to tell but I can say that he's got the tools to be an above average QB in the league and is better at this point than any young QB for the Redskins since Theismann.
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First time poster but long time reader of warpath message boards. I would like to know how many people think JC can be a top 5 quarterback a few years down the road. I am hopeful, but there is still a lot of progress that needs to be made.
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I think he has potential to be a consistent top 10 with some top 5 performances here and there. I think he will draw comparison's to his idol Doug Williams and a little bit of Randall Cunningham before too long.
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The sweep isn't always designed for it to be a huge gainer. If you are getting 8,9,12 yds up the middle then you have to run outside to keep defenses honest and not pinch the DL and rush the OLB in the tackle/guard gap.. If you catch them in a inside stunt that's a long td run most of the time..
good post. the mix of run and pass was almost perfect yesterday, and Campbell benefited by not being touched hardly at all
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:45 PM   #25
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First time poster but long time reader of warpath message boards. I would like to know how many people think JC can be a top 5 quarterback a few years down the road. I am hopeful, but there is still a lot of progress that needs to be made.
He has everything it takes to be a top 5 qb. He just needs a FULL OFFSEASON with the SAME OC so he can grow and get chemistry w/ the wr's. Look at how he and Cooley are starting to get a feel for one another already. Now he needs to get that with Moss cause those two are still out of sink a bit. Sure he has to work on his footwork and perhaps tweak his arm angle a bit. What young qb doesn't need work? He has been in 5-6 different offenses in the last 6 years?? JC will be MUCH BETTER next year if they keep everything around him the same. Look at how much Alex Smith has improved.
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First time poster but long time reader of warpath message boards. I would like to know how many people think JC can be a top 5 quarterback a few years down the road. I am hopeful, but there is still a lot of progress that needs to be made.
I think its too early to tell if he does. He makes some plays but misses alot too. Don't get me wrong i think he's playing well, but he's missed alot of "easy" throws too. He's sailed some and skipped some. He's made some nice throws too. Hard to tell. There is potential there which is what us skins fans want to see. IMO right now i see top 10 potential.

As far as the best young qb we've seen? From what i remember w/out searching data, Ramsey did pretty well out of the gate and was annointed as the Qb of the future by many. That didn't exactly pan out. So, let's see how this works out.
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:06 PM   #27
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Please don't get me strated on Saunders. Last year the skins was one of the top teams scoring TDs in the redzone. Now every good drive ends in a FG. 400 yards a game without points is worthless. Next year he play calling needs to improve in the redzone or Gibbs needs to drop an axe on his neck.(fire him)
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:18 PM   #28
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Please don't get me strated on Saunders. Last year the skins was one of the top teams scoring TDs in the redzone. Now every good drive ends in a FG. 400 yards a game without points is worthless. Next year he play calling needs to improve in the redzone or Gibbs needs to drop an axe on his neck.(fire him)
Does anyone remember the last half of last year? We couldn't even get a first downs neverless a TD. That's why Saunders is here. Do you ever think that the plays that are being called are not being executed?
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Does anyone remember the last half of last year? We couldn't even get a first downs neverless a TD. That's why Saunders is here. Do you ever think that the plays that are being called are not being executed?
I'm pretty sure the Redskins finish something like 13-13 (touchdowns) in the red zone late last year
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:31 PM   #30
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Does anyone remember the last half of last year? We couldn't even get a first downs neverless a TD. That's why Saunders is here. Do you ever think that the plays that are being called are not being executed?
Just check last years stats compared to this year. Stats don't lie
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