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Old 12-19-2006, 08:45 PM   #31
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i think they need a good defensive end worse than they do a qb.the qb can sit back in the pocket and write a song unless a good de can put some pressure on him.i would almost give on of your right nuts to see julius peppers as a redskin,he's the real deal!
How did a QB fall into this equation? And you'd almost give one of my nuts?? My nuts aren't for sale or barter. I'm sure others would say the same about their nuts...except 724skinsfan 'cause he's weird like that
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:50 PM   #32
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How did a QB fall into this equation? And you'd almost give one of my nuts?? My nuts aren't for sale or barter. I'm sure others would say the same about their nuts...except 724skinsfan 'cause he's weird like that
To think I was willing to remove you from my list....you're right, though.
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i think they need a good defensive end worse than they do a qb.the qb can sit back in the pocket and write a song unless a good de can put some pressure on him.i would almost give on of your right nuts to see julius peppers as a redskin,he's the real deal!
Frank Gore has a better chance of running for 4000 yards next year (enter Rexi's analysis of how it could happen) than Peppers being in Burgandy and Gold within the next 5 years.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:05 PM   #34
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How did a QB fall into this equation? And you'd almost give one of my nuts?? My nuts aren't for sale or barter. I'm sure others would say the same about their nuts...except 724skinsfan 'cause he's weird like that
keep your pants on man,it was just a joke.sorry you thought i gave you the raw ass over it!
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keep your pants on man,it was just a joke.sorry you thought i gave you the raw ass over it!
I know. I was just joking back at you
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I know. I was just joking back at you
okay my friend!but i would still give one of somebody's nuts for julius peppers though.maybe not yours or mine,but somebody's!
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:28 PM   #37
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thomas is a little older than i thought. a 270 lbs OLB in a 3-4 defense, who will be 30 by next season's start might not be the best choice to be a 4-3 linebacker in our system, and probably wouldnt be that wise to spend too much on him at this point. if we go after a 30+ linebacker id hope it would be london fletcher
Signing a 30 year old to a big deal would be stupid...and that position is not even the biggest need. Clements I have no problem with.
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I think Thomas is just speculation on Lenny's part, he doesn't seem like a great fit here.
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:29 PM   #39
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I'd rather sign Asante Samuel to address our cornerback needs. He's younger and has more picks. I just think he's in the upswing of his career while Clements is on his way down.
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Will Springs have to rework contract if Clements is signed?

If the Redskins go after and sign Clements will the team ask Springs to redo his contract or cut him?
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I'd rather sign Asante Samuel to address our cornerback needs. He's younger and has more picks. I just think he's in the upswing of his career while Clements is on his way down.
I like Samuel but I think the problem is that physically he doesn't fit the GWilliams mold for a DB
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Old 12-20-2006, 12:41 PM   #42
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We passed on Dyson because of that too. So, we sign Kenny Wright who does fit the GW bill. And how has that worked out for us? It's stupid to pass on these talented guys because they're not as sure tacklers. They're playmakers who get INTs. We need them especially since we may break the season record for least amount of picks.
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Re: Will Springs have to rework contract if Clements is signed?

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If the Redskins go after and sign Clements will the team ask Springs to redo his contract or cut him?
From a salary cap standpoint, they have no motivation to cut Shawn Springs. If he's under contract, he'll count $7.3 million in 2007. If they cut him before June 1, he'd count $7.4 million in deadcap. So if they were going to cut Springs, it would be because they didn't think he fit the squad anymore. But they could save cap space by asking him to restructure his deal. He'd still get paid what his contract says, he'd just get it in the form of a lumpsum signing bonus instead of in game checks.

There's no reason to ask him to take a paycut. On the open market he's worth what his contract is scheduled to pay him.

All that aside, I think he's still a valuable player for us. He's still our best corner. If Clements came on board and Springs were healthy, they'd both be starters.

One of the biggest questions the defensive coaches will have to ask themselves is can we play top 10 defense again with Springs and Rogers as our starters, or do we need to get a top guy to pair with Springs? We know that K Wright probably isn't cutting it as a nickel. So the question is do the Skins go after a young CB to play nickel initially and eventually take over for Springs? Or do we need a stud right now because Rogers just won't cut it? I don't know the answer at this point - Rogers has quietly had a much better second half of the season.
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I don't know the answer at this point - Rogers has quietly had a much better second half of the season.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Springs has played much of the second half of the season. I also imagine benching Archuleta factored into helping Rogers
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Good post Schneed.

I think at this point we need to bring in a starting quality corner for two main reasons: Springs' age and injury concerns, and Rogers shaky career to date.

I also wouldn't rule out the possibility of moving Springs to safety.

Even if Springs doesn't move to safety, with how many DBs Williams likes to use, all three would still see plenty of playing time and would be very interchangeable.
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