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Old 12-26-2006, 06:52 PM   #46
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Once again. Dgack you can argue how many yards were put up and everything else. It was a good strip blah blah blah.

Here is the bottom line. The team was in a position to win the game. Betts had the ball and knows that someone is going to try and strip the ball (that is no secret). He didn't make the play.


I AM TIRED OF EXCUSES. When you have a chance to seal the game, do it. It is that simple. Make the play.

Our team has been deficient in making plays this year that is why they are 5-10.

I don't care if the D gave up 6000 yards. If there are 2:00 left in the game and you have just broken into the secondary, hold onto the ball.

By the way, Taylor was embarrassed yesterday, that is fine. He also won three games for us this year. Without him, we are 2-13 and probably the most disappointing team of all time.
Oh , is that how it works ? taylor blows coverages all day < all year > , but he won us some games so its ok ? Guess he can spit on players , chase people around with guns , refuse to call his head coach , during HIS offseason ,,, but its ok ? When Portis lose three fumbles in NY , its not his fault when Moss head buts another player , its ok too ? Amazing how everyone is tired of excuses , except for the guys from the U ?? Maybe betts caused the fight between the U and FIA this year . Maybe Betts missed all those tackles and blew all those coverages ?
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:08 PM   #47
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Re: Portis over Betts no brainer

You want to dump CP because he "hesitates too much"? I'm not even sure how you can substantiate an argument like that, so I'll just go with my gut and say, no, he doesn't hesitate too much.

He rushed for over 1500 yards in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He finds the end zone. He's friggin fast. He doesn't fumble. He is the best blocking back in the league. He is unselfish. He is a consummate team player. He's hands down the best back on the team.

We are in a great position with CP taking 15-20 carries and Betts getting 10-15 a game as the default strategy. Betts is proving to be a very good runner, so I'm sure, if he gets the hot hand in a particular game, he'll see more carries.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:09 PM   #48
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Man, Skins fans turn on you on a dime. I don't get this whole Betts vs Portis issue. We have two capable backs and the one that gives us the best chance to win will be on the field. Portis is a proven commodity but great players emerge when players ahead of them gets injured. Betts has stepped it up big time and if he gets the nod over Portis I'll be comfortable with that but he will have to live up to what we have come to expect from Portis. Either way just f'ing win baby.
I have been on other forums and this has to be the best Portis vs. Betts quote that I have read...Portis is a very good back and we know that he can carry the load but so is Betts and we know that Gibbs will field the correct player in the best situation for either back.

To make up things like Betts has a fumble problem just because he fumbled and you happen to not like people saying that Portis may need to be traded is ludicrous. Every back fumbles if given enough carries but I think that some people were chomping at the bits to see this happen. To actually be wanting something bad to happen to a Redskin player should make you re-think rather you are a Redskin fan or just a fan that happens to like a player that is on the Redskins team. A real fan would be rooting for each and every player on the team.
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Old 12-26-2006, 11:11 PM   #49
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Re: Portis over Betts no brainer

I didn't even bother addressing the "I'm tired of excuses" argument, because that person obviously hasn't watched a single set of downs when we've been on defense this season.

All we've GOTTEN from the D this year are excuses.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:42 AM   #50
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I guess we'll probably be talking about this all offseason. Portis isn't going anywhere.

Betts has had a great year no doubt, in fact I'm really puzzled as to why he didn't want to test the market. With the tear he's on he could have easily locked down a bigger contract and a starting job next year. If anyone really doubts that he is starting material you really need to have your head checked. Guys that have done far less have locked down starting jobs in free agency.

As great of a year that Betts has had, Portis is still the unquestioned starter. We have a great situation now with our backfield. Let's enjoy it and stop this nonsense about getting rid of Portis. In this day and age you need 2 quality backs.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:55 AM   #51
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Betts has had a great year no doubt, in fact I'm really puzzled as to why he didn't want to test the market. With the tear he's on he could have easily locked down a bigger contract and a starting job next year. If anyone really doubts that he is starting material you really need to have your head checked. Guys that have done far less have locked down starting jobs in free agency.
One has to wonder if Ladell knows something we don't about CP's chances of coming back 100%. Either that, or he has lucrative incentive escalators in his contract?

It could just be, of course, that he wants to play here, for Gibbs, and probably retire as a Redskin. He wouldn't be the first or last guy to factor those things into his decision to turn down higher-paying offers to stay on his current job.
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It could just be, of course, that he wants to play here, for Gibbs, and probably retire as a Redskin. He wouldn't be the first or last guy to factor those things into his decision to turn down higher-paying offers to stay on his current job.
it is very unusual that someone really wants to stay here. but maybe its the start of good things to come
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I"m sure his agent, to the extent possible, put out some feelers before Betts resigned with the Skins.
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Oh , is that how it works ? taylor blows coverages all day < all year > , but he won us some games so its ok ? Guess he can spit on players , chase people around with guns , refuse to call his head coach , during HIS offseason ,,, but its ok ? When Portis lose three fumbles in NY , its not his fault when Moss head buts another player , its ok too ? Amazing how everyone is tired of excuses , except for the guys from the U ?? Maybe betts caused the fight between the U and FIA this year . Maybe Betts missed all those tackles and blew all those coverages ?

When has Sean Taylor or Santana Moss ever made an excuse? And what does Taylor's offseason have to do with how he plays? He is the best player on the team. Portis is a primadonna but he runs like he is 250 so I give him a free pass.

You know why I like players from the U? They know how to play the game correctly and they hold eachother accountable, something that our coaches have forgotten how to do.

The next time you want to have a mindless rant, feel free to beat your head on the wall.
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And what does Taylor's offseason have to do with how he plays? He is the best player on the team.
He might have been last year, but sure as hell isn't this year.
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He might have been last year, but sure as hell isn't this year.

Who is?
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Who is?
The way we are playing this year I'm inclined to say Frost. I'm not sure if I'm serious or kidding, either.
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The way we are playing this year I'm inclined to say Frost. I'm not sure if I'm serious or kidding, either.

You may be on to something there. He has been money in the second half.
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The way we are playing this year I'm inclined to say Frost. I'm not sure if I'm serious or kidding, either.
The best player and who WILL be our player of the year will be Ladelle Betts hands down. Clinton will be back next year and maybe he will be our best player THEN but Betts has it now no matter what people think about him coming in and having the year that he had.
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The best player and who WILL be our player of the year will be Ladelle Betts hands down. Clinton will be back next year and maybe he will be our best player THEN but Betts has it now no matter what people think about him coming in and having the year that he had.
Statistically he probably is our best player this season. Of course I can't write that in this thread for obvious reasons.

+50 points for re-igniting a dying fire, BTW!
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