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Old 12-27-2006, 09:55 PM   #1
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Shawn Springs Placed on injured reserve, Mike Rumph Released

Springs to IR; Rumph Released

Interesting tidbit:

"Springs' future with the team could be serving in a different role next season. Head coach Joe Gibbs indicated that he could play some safety next season. It's a position that Springs has said that he would be open to playing."

What does this say for Rumph's value now? Not being able to play on one of the NFL's worst pass defenses? Wow. Was that ever a miscalculation of a first round pick.
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Springs to IR; Rumph Released

Interesting tidbit:

"Springs' future with the team could be serving in a different role next season. Head coach Joe Gibbs indicated that he could play some safety next season. It's a position that Springs has said that he would be open to playing."

What does this say for Rumph's value now? Not being able to play on one of the NFL's worst pass defenses? Wow. Was that ever a miscalculation of a first round pick.
Kudos to the members of this board who anticipated a potential Springs move to safety. It's not far fetched - GW has always liked corners and safeties to be versatile and somewhat interchangeable. After all, he moved Troy Vincent from corner to safety in Buffalo several years ago - before Vincent grew ancient.

The Warpath community, once again, proves to be the most knowledgable of all Redskin fan sites.

I think the indication that Springs could move to S increases the chances that the club gets all up on Nate Clements.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:23 PM   #3
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Re: Springs Placed on IR, Rumph Released

Why don't we just save ourselves a lot of time and anguish and just put Springs on the IR for next season now, while we're at it. Seriously, someone's just going to sneeze in his general vicinity next season and cause him to suffer a season-ending cerebral hemmorhage or something.

I'm going all Sam Jackson in "Unbreakable" and hereby dubbing Springs "Mr. Glass".
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Why don't we just save ourselves a lot of time and anguish and just put Springs on the IR for next season now, while we're at it. Seriously, someone's just going to sneeze in his general vicinity next season and cause him to suffer a season-ending cerebral hemmorhage or something.

I'm going all Sam Jackson in "Unbreakable" and hereby dubbing Springs "Mr. Glass".
I don't think that's being fair. Here's his games played history:

1997: 10
1998: 16
1999: 16
2000: 16
2001: 8
2002: 15
2003: 12
2004: 8
2005: 15
2006: 9

He's never missed anything more than a half a season, and those times were rare. Most of his seasons, including 2005 for us, were long and successful.

He is getting older, that's for sure. Which is why moving him to safety makes a lot of sense from a health standpoint. The groin issue cleared up this year, once they treated it properly with the surgery. And I don't see how you can call a guy "Mr. Glass" for breaking a shoulder blade. Do you know how much of a freak thing that is?

I think he's been a tough player for us, and I like him to come back strong next year and be an effective CB/S for us.
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I'm engaging in a little hyperbole, of course, but no more than those who call Betts a fumble machine.

Just FYI, though, those numbers are not as great as you'd like to think. Over his 10-year career, he averages 12.5 games played a season. You don't have too many starting NFL corners who have that kind of injury proclivity. I just did some rudimentary sifting on Yahoo and couldn't find any "big name" CB's who have that kind of injury record. I mean, think about what you're saying here -- he's had one full season in the last 4 years. Two in the last six years (and I'm counting 15 game seasons as "full" here). If you want to get technical, he hasn't played a complete season since 2000 (!).

CB's should be among the most durable and resilient guys on your team, shouldn't they? Other than ligament tears, you just don't hear of too many injuries to corners. Certainly not all the crazy, improbable stuff that Springs seems to be a magnet for.

He's obviously very needed around here and unquestionably still has talent, but tough is not a word I would use to describe the guy.
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I'm engaging in a little hyperbole, of course, but no more than those who call Betts a fumble machine.

Just FYI, though, those numbers are not as great as you'd like to think. Over his 10-year career, he averages 12.5 games played a season. You don't have too many starting NFL corners who have that kind of injury proclivity. I just did some rudimentary sifting on Yahoo and couldn't find any "big name" CB's who have that kind of injury record. I mean, think about what you're saying here -- he's had one full season in the last 4 years. Two in the last six years (and I'm counting 15 game seasons as "full" here). If you want to get technical, he hasn't played a complete season since 2000 (!).

CB's should be among the most durable and resilient guys on your team, shouldn't they? Other than ligament tears, you just don't hear of too many injuries to corners. Certainly not all the crazy, improbable stuff that Springs seems to be a magnet for.

He's obviously very needed around here and unquestionably still has talent, but tough is not a word I would use to describe the guy.

Dude, reading your posts is like watching old people getting busy.

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Re: Springs Placed on IR, Rumph Released

I really like hearing that the coaching staff is considering moving Springs to safety, I think that's a great call and a strong indicator that Springs will be back... just not as the starting corner. I heard Nate Clements is already house shopping in the area.
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Dude, reading your posts is like watching old people getting busy.

Are you Rexi?
Yawn. Wake me up when you've got anything new.
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Yawn. Wake me up when you've got anything new.
Likewise.

By the way, Betts lost that game.
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Likewise.

By the way, Betts lost that game.
Whatever dukes, I'm all for rational debate, but I could care less if you want to believe something different. I'm not terribly interested in trading barbs with you, so like I said, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I heard Nate Clements is already house shopping in the area.
Really? I hadnt heard that. I wonder how much we are going to give him. I have to admit I am a little concerned about our cap this year.
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can someone explain to me why the skins want springs to play safety? he is easily our best corner, and most people around here think that carlos rogers has regressed, so why would you want to go into next season needing 2 corners? one good quality corner is hard enough to come by. i would try to get michael lewis from the eagles, good safety for some reason the eagles are really down on him
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Re: Springs Placed on IR, Rumph Released

Springs already has the cover ability and is a decent tackler, it makes him an ideal safety. Think among the lines of Troy Vincent and Rod Woodson. Moving to Safety extended both careers. And it seems that Nate Clements is on his way here...since Matty's spies saw him looking at houses in the area.

Guess this means AA will continue to be the highest paid special teamer in NFL history.
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Was that ever a miscalculation of a first round pick.
What first rounder?
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can someone explain to me why the skins want springs to play safety? he is easily our best corner, and most people around here think that carlos rogers has regressed, so why would you want to go into next season needing 2 corners? one good quality corner is hard enough to come by. i would try to get michael lewis from the eagles, good safety for some reason the eagles are really down on him
Moving him to safety doesn't mean he won't be matched up 1 on 1 w/wr's a lot. It will just give GW flexibility w/his packages. I agree w/those here who said that this is an indication that Clements could be inked in march.
Props to those that predicted Springs at safety!
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