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Old 12-28-2006, 07:02 PM   #1
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ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

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ESPN.com - NFL - Beleaguered safety Archuleta says Skins lied to him
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:23 PM   #2
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

Happy trails you overpaid underachiever!! I don't like guys who don't live up to a fat contract!!
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:33 PM   #3
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

So, that would probably qualify as "bitching".
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

Is there any question as to whether or not he'll be back next year?
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:39 PM   #5
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

I wish they could cut him right now!
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:40 PM   #6
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

I'd call that bitching. I'd love to know why when players fall into the dog house with the current coaching staff they all basically say the same things. Is it sour grapes or is it some fundamental flaw with the staff? Gibbs didn't seem to have issues like this the first time around and by all outward appearences all other players seem fine. What is it that the coaches do when they finally give up on you?
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:58 PM   #7
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

As much as I hate to say it, I think Archuleta has a point. If he can handle all the criticism and being told what is wrong with him then the coaches should just talk to him straight and tell him all his flaws and what he needs to work on. It's clear he doesn't fit into our system, but the least they could do is tell him what he needs to work on to be a good safety in this league. That said, I would like to see us trade him, rather than cut him. At least if we traded him, we could get some value for him. Why not trade him to the Bears?
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:02 PM   #8
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

AHHH HAHAHAHA!!! What a maroon. I wish I hadn't a taken up for him earlier in the season. I stand corrected, he sucks....a lot. I mean a WHOLE lot.

AA: "I don't like getting lied to?"
GW: "You want answers?"
AA: "I want the truth!"
GW "You can't handle the truth!"
AA: "Give it to me straight, what do I need to be better?"
GW:"Skills"
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:07 PM   #9
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

AA proved his worth early on: pretty useless. I have no question he doesn't belong on this team, but once again we have a disgruntled player leaving the organization pissed off.

What the hell is with the management of this team that we seem to have more pissed players up and leave or get fired than any other team I'm aware of? Is it just because I follow the Redskins a lot closer than other teams, or does this team genuinely screw people over season after season?

I'm not arguing that AA should play or that he's good, I'm just wondering in general why these situations happen so freakin' often to this team.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:09 PM   #10
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Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

Not a bad question.

Here's my glass half full theory....

The Redskins are one of the few teams that don't cater to whiney crybabies. They would rather them leave disgruntled and unhappy instead of elevate those few to the lofty pedestal in which they foolishly believe they entitled to.


just a theory...
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I totally understand where you are coming from AA. I too hate being lied to. They told us you were a hard hitter, smart, and all around good player. The truth is, you suck. Any moron can play close to the line and play the run. That's basic prerequisite to being a safety. What everyone expected was a Strong Safety. That means someone who can lay the smack down as well as cover the TE. Which in tern means someone who doesn't bite harder than a BDSM mistress on a pump fake and who can keep up with a TE in the 4th qt when your team is leading.

Know that I know that it's not your fault. It's the talent evaluator at Redskins Park's fault.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:27 PM   #12
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i dont think anyone who has ever blamed the coaching staff has ever come out and critisized themselves, i.e. lavar, archuleta. it seems everytime a player is not performing all of the sudden its the coaching staff who is not holding thier hand. these are grown ass men who make millions, put up or shut up. you mean to tell me that in the 6 plus years archuleta has been in this league he cannot figure out what is wrong with his game. well its a good thing im here.....

let me see if i can diagnose some propblems for you Adam just so you know what to work on.

1. speed, your slow and you have weak ankles, try a dot drill, i think you can find one at any local high school in the area.

2. tackling, speaks for itself, learn how to do it effectively, you may have been able to blame previous safeties in the past for mistakes but that wont work on sean.

3. coverage, dude this ties in with number 1, your like the kid who lines up in the backyard across from the fast kid who yells "mismatch" with his hand in the air only to run a fly route right past you.

4. blocking, dont think i forgot about your missed blocking assignment about 7 weeks ago when frost got his kicked blocked, that was your man, and it was an obvious botch.

5. special teams, consider this a gift for condidtioning, if you werent making so much money we would have you filling out paperwork. just hope the browns are looking for a safety next year, oh oops must we all forget who they have back there. ifayani ohalette, who i would take in a heartbeat over your sorry ____ (sorry not familiar with forum rules).

6. just go adam, just go away
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AA proved his worth early on: pretty useless. I have no question he doesn't belong on this team, but once again we have a disgruntled player leaving the organization pissed off.

What the hell is with the management of this team that we seem to have more pissed players up and leave or get fired than any other team I'm aware of? Is it just because I follow the Redskins a lot closer than other teams, or does this team genuinely screw people over season after season?

I'm not arguing that AA should play or that he's good, I'm just wondering in general why these situations happen so freakin' often to this team.
Dude, you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. I mean, we all knew Arch was unhappy and he didn't fit this scheme. I think that's a moot point.

But the bigger question is, why does this seem to be a consistent theme with our staff/management? Why is it that the coaches play the silence game with the media, toe the company line, and all of sudden we have another disgruntled player that is leaving the team. No way in hell it's always the player that's the problem.

Why do I get the impression that Gibbs has no control over this team??
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:33 PM   #14
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i dont think anyone who has ever blamed the coaching staff has ever come out and critisized themselves, i.e. lavar, archuleta. it seems everytime a player is not performing all of the sudden its the coaching staff who is not holding thier hand. these are grown ass men who make millions, put up or shut up. you mean to tell me that in the 6 plus years archuleta has been in this league he cannot figure out what is wrong with his game. well its a good thing im here.....

let me see if i can diagnose some propblems for you Adam just so you know what to work on.

1. speed, your slow and you have weak ankles, try a dot drill, i think you can find one at any local high school in the area.

2. tackling, speaks for itself, learn how to do it effectively, you may have been able to blame previous safeties in the past for mistakes but that wont work on sean.

3. coverage, dude this ties in with number 1, your like the kid who lines up in the backyard across from the fast kid who yells "mismatch" with his hand in the air only to run a fly route right past you.

4. blocking, dont think i forgot about your missed blocking assignment about 7 weeks ago when frost got his kicked blocked, that was your man, and it was an obvious botch.

5. special teams, consider this a gift for condidtioning, if you werent making so much money we would have you filling out paperwork. just hope the browns are looking for a safety next year, oh oops must we all forget who they have back there. ifayani ohalette, who i would take in a heartbeat over your sorry ____ (sorry not familiar with forum rules).

6. just go adam, just go away
You're right, man. Adam has some hand in this, but his is on the field primarily. How many pressers have you watched this year, and both Gibbs and Williams will give some bullshit line, he's having a great practice, blah, blah. In fact, prior to the St. Louis game, Williams gave the impression that Arch would be playing some defense.
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I totally understand where you are coming from AA. I too hate being lied to. They told us you were a hard hitter, smart, and all around good player. The truth is, you suck. Any moron can play close to the line and play the run. That's basic prerequisite to being a safety. What everyone expected was a Strong Safety. That means someone who can lay the smack down as well as cover the TE. Which in tern means someone who doesn't bite harder than an BDSM mistress on a pump fake and who can keep up with a TE in the 4th qt when your team is leading.

Know that I know that it's not your fault. It's the talent evaluator at Redskins Park's fault.

Saden - the talent evaluator you are referring to - what that be Cerrato or Gibbs or both?
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