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Old 12-30-2006, 11:07 PM   #1
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#1 I'm not sure what is wrong with the defense, but I hope Williams is starting to find some humility. I have not seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life (and that includes Coach Edwards' defense). They can't tackle, force turnovers, stop the run, rush the passer, and they get penalties to boot.

#2 Betts is a very good back who could start for a lot of teams, but as long as he is careless with the football I'd prefer to see him remain a change-of-pace back. His fumble resulted in a 6-10 point swing.

#3 Andre Carter has been playing like a pass rushing stud for over a month now. Carter has racked up 4 sacks and a heckuva lot of pressures and tackles in the last 5 games. If only he were 15 pounds heavier and stouter against the run.

#4 Those who booed Mark Brunell's appearance on the field are classless. I'm ashamed to be lumped in together with them as a Redskins fan.

#5 Jason Campbell looks pretty solid. He is as elusive as any QB not named Michael Vick, Vince Young or Donovan McNabb. How many tackles did he shed to gain yards when pressure forced him out of the pocket? Moreover, he is as good at play-action and pump-fakes as any QB I've seen in the league.
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:11 PM   #2
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#1 I'm not sure what is wrong with the defense, but I hope Williams is starting to find some humility. I have not seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life (and that includes Coach Edwards' defense). They can tackle, force turnovers, stop the run, rush the passer, and they get penalties to boot.

#2 Betts is a very good back who could start for a lot of teams, but as long as he is careless with the football I'd prefer to see him remain a change-of-pace back. His fumble resulted in a 6-10 point swing.

#3 Andre Carter has been playing like a pass rushing stud for over a month now. Carter has racked up 4 sacks and a heckuva lot of pressures and tackles in the last 5 games. If only he were 15 pounds heavier and stouter against the run.

#4 Those who booed Mark Brunell's appearance on the field are classless. I'm ashamed to be lumped in together with them as a Redskins fan.

#5 Jason Campbell looks pretty solid. He is as elusive as any QB not named Michael Vick or Donovan McNabb. How many tackles did he shed to gain yards when pressure forced him out of the pocket? Moreover, he is as good at play-action and pump-fakes as any QB I've seen in the league.

I felt the same way about the booing...that was not right. We really need a linebacker and a Corner, for once...please leave the offense alone in the offseason
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:13 PM   #3
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Valiant comeback attempt for a team just playing for pride. Defense just let us down again. If the defense can improve to mere average, and the offense continues at the pace it has been playing recently, next season could be special! Let's hope!
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good grief...what an empty feeling...that was probably the last football game I'll watch until next season
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:14 PM   #5
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The defense? I hate to be the negative one, but I have little faith in Gregg Williams to turn things around at this point.

Jason sorta had his coming out party tonight. All for naught.
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i want to see ST fuck up jacobs so badly.

pardon my french
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:15 PM   #7
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#1 I'm not sure what is wrong with the defense, but I hope Williams is starting to find some humility. I have not seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life (and that includes Coach Edwards' defense). They can't tackle, force turnovers, stop the run, rush the passer, and they get penalties to boot.

#2 Betts is a very good back who could start for a lot of teams, but as long as he is careless with the football I'd prefer to see him remain a change-of-pace back. His fumble resulted in a 6-10 point swing.

#3 Andre Carter has been playing like a pass rushing stud for over a month now. Carter has racked up 4 sacks and a heckuva lot of pressures and tackles in the last 5 games. If only he were 15 pounds heavier and stouter against the run.

#4 Those who booed Mark Brunell's appearance on the field are classless. I'm ashamed to be lumped in together with them as a Redskins fan.

#5 Jason Campbell looks pretty solid. He is as elusive as any QB not named Michael Vick or Donovan McNabb. How many tackles did he shed to gain yards when pressure forced him out of the pocket? Moreover, he is as good at play-action and pump-fakes as any QB I've seen in the league.
There, fixed #1 for ya.

And I solidly agree on #4. That was disgusting and classless.

As for my thoughts, well i don't have much. The defense blows unlike anything i have ever seen. They blow epic proportions. If Gregg Williams doesn't learn something from this, then maybe it's time to find someone else to fix the defense.

Also, I really, really, cannot emphasize this enough, do not want to see us go out in free agency and spend spend spend and fail to produce results. I am sick and tired of us being the laughingstock of the NFL during the spring. Gibbs needs to start building through the draft. That also cannot be emphasized enough. We're not playing to win a Superbowl now, we're back to square 1, and it's time to start rebuilding.

One more thing, I like Ladell Betts and all, but he needs to learn how to hang onto the ball. I'm gonna be glad to see Portis back there next year.
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:16 PM   #8
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I really don't think its that bad...just too many injuries, if we can pick up an MLB and a corner we're straight...and depth on the D line
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i want to see ST fuck up jacobs so badly.

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did something happen at the end of the game between those two?
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#1 I'm not sure what is wrong with the defense, but I hope Williams is starting to find some humility. I have not seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life (and that includes Coach Edwards' defense). They can tackle, force turnovers, stop the run, rush the passer, and they get penalties to boot.

#2 Betts is a very good back who could start for a lot of teams, but as long as he is careless with the football I'd prefer to see him remain a change-of-pace back. His fumble resulted in a 6-10 point swing.

#3 Andre Carter has been playing like a pass rushing stud for over a month now. Carter has racked up 4 sacks and a heckuva lot of pressures and tackles in the last 5 games. If only he were 15 pounds heavier and stouter against the run.

#4 Those who booed Mark Brunell's appearance on the field are classless. I'm ashamed to be lumped in together with them as a Redskins fan.

#5 Jason Campbell looks pretty solid. He is as elusive as any QB not named Michael Vick or Donovan McNabb. How many tackles did he shed to gain yards when pressure forced him out of the pocket? Moreover, he is as good at play-action and pump-fakes as any QB I've seen in the league.
I agree with everything that was written here especially the part about our classless fans who attended the game. The sad part about that is most of them will be on this forum tonight or tomorrow pretending to be Redskins fans....I say "pretending" because if they were real Redskins fans they would root for anyone who is in any game at anytime
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I really don't think its that bad...just too many injuries, if we can pick up an MLB and a corner we're straight...and depth on the D line
Trust me, injuries were not our problem this year. Sure we had some key guys go down this year, but you know what, someone will go down next year too. We have to get beyond that.
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:18 PM   #12
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Next year...I'm excited on offense - lets integrate the remaining 80% (or whatever's left) of Saunders' playbook, and let JC develop better timing with receivers like Moss and ARE.

On defense, I'm less hopeful (especially if Springs is not back). We have Sean Taylor playing like a cunt right now, not surprising that he's so demorialized given the stellar supporting cast we have in the secondary. I'd like to see them shed the redtape on the defensive coaching staff (especially shedding the baggage with all the conflicting secondary coaches). Bring in Nate Clements, and sign a free agent DT, and sign/draft a linebacker.
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did something happen at the end of the game between those two?
yea brandon was talking smack and it annoys me. then the finn buy went after ST while downing th ball.
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Defense - Nowhere to go but up, right? Also, Tiki won't be playing next year. Why in the world has he absolutely torched us the past 3-5 years? IMO, he's not that great.

JC - He played well. Solid game to end the season with. 2TDs, 68% completion, 220yds, 1int.

Betts - I believe tonight he showed once again why he is no Portis-replacer.
Santana - Can he play the deep ball or what?

REL - Solid game.

Sellers - Nice short yardage running.
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The defense needs a complete overhaul. We need a DT, DE, MLB, FS and a corner. But since you can't get rid of everyone then I would start with either a DT or DE and then a MLB. You have no chance to win in the NFL when you keep getting gashed on the run.
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