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Most likely to be back with the team next year?

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Archuleta 8 5.59%
Lloyd 72 50.35%
both 45 31.47%
neither 18 12.59%
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:51 PM   #16
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

lloyd is under rated IMO and we cant afford the his with Queermo
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:58 PM   #17
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

I see Archie as a post June 1 cap cut for reasons that Sneed pointed out. Before the St. Louis game Sports talk 980 had a beat writer from St. Louis (who was actually a Skins fan) and he said Archie has a bad back and since he had injured his back he has not been the same player he was in his first couple of years in the league. He went to say that back injuries like the one he sustained are incrediably tough to come back from - why our FO could not see this before they gave him the largest contract for safety in history I don't understand.

I think the Skins will keep Llyod one more season to prove whether he belongs or not because you just don't give up 2 picks for a one year rental. That way if he does not pan out you can cut him post June 1 for the next year and spread you cap hits accordingly.
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Old 01-01-2007, 11:28 PM   #18
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

I think they're going to keep Lloyd in the doghouse for a while to teach him a lesson, then give him another shot. Honestly, I don't see how they dump AA this year. Keep him around and make him a special teams and blitzing DB expert. He isn't worth the money obviously, but they're sunk costs at this point. I don't think we need his roster spot that badly.

Nonetheless, I went with just Lloyd for the poll.
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:03 AM   #19
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

I voted for both.. If GW is the genius he thinks he is, he has a whole offseason to figure out how to maximize what talents Archuleta has.
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:16 AM   #20
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

I wonder how he can do that, seriously. Unless AA goes to Darrell Green's School of Coverage it will be hard to put AA in the game just as a blitz specialist. The other team will know every time what he's going to do and audible some counter. I guess at that point then GW pull AA back to counter that in which case AA is now stuck in coverage. He needs to be put in a position on the field that maximizes his tackling but minimizes his need to run up and down the field in coverage. Maybe GW can create a Weak MLB position?
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:16 AM   #21
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

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After reading all about how bad the locker room situation is, how players are sick of how the Redskins treat outside free agents, and how much B Lloyd is disliked, I think the team really needs to can Arch and Lloyd just to reestablish a sense of justice and accountability in the locker room.

The team also needs to re-up with Dockery to show that it means business about keeping core guys here. I don't care if we have to pay Dockery more than Eric Steinbach gets, the front office and Gibbs need to show the players that the term "Real Redskin" doesn't mean "we like you, if you accept a discounted contract."
I'm with that. I mean already Samuels is wanting to restructure to keep Dock. Great message it would send if they got Steinbach and sent Dock packing.
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:26 AM   #22
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

Only way i would like either of them to go is if they pull a lavar and give back tghe penalty or restructure so we can cut them. Otherwise I don't care if we pull a snyder and tell them we can buy them a plasma TV and they can watch the games at home because i would rather waste a roster spot than 7 million.
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I'm with that. I mean already Samuels is wanting to restructure to keep Dock. Great message it would send if they got Steinbach and sent Dock packing.
With the way this year went and the sour taste in alot of players' mouths I think the team will go above and beyond to retain Dockery. #1 because he had a great season and deserves to be re-signed and #2 for the message that it will send the team. We've been burned for far too long by always looking outside the organization. It's time to make a real committment to rewarding our own guys. Re-signing Betts was a good first step, now we just need to keep that going.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:15 AM   #24
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Yup, then Dock, then Cooley, then Taylor. What I do like is the fact that it sounds like Gibbs is committed to listening to players about what works in the offseason. I was reading a quote by Santana and he said it best when he said that they are professionals and it's not like they're going to come there out-of-shape.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:19 AM   #25
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I think that no matter what Gibbs or any other coach says today, the real decisions won't be made until after they've had these "meetings" and watch game tape. That can change everything.

And while Brandon Lloyd didn't endear himself to the coaching staff or some of his team mates, I big part of his problem this year (along with all of the wideouts) was inconsistency at quarterback. Give him another season to see what he and Campbell can develop together.

I do think the offense is in good hands.
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That's what I was thinking. I'm thinking that beyond the bitching, beyond the horrible record, let's see another season with Campbell at QB and a season with either A) no injuries on defense or B) some depth on defense.

Sure, it's a team game, but Wright was good for at least a touchdown a game. That being said, I thought he played great in nickel packages.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:36 AM   #27
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

Anyone else notice in that WaPo article today that it said Saunder brought in two new guys on offense, Randle El and Collins? No mention of Lloyd. Does that mean he didn't want Lloyd? Had nothing to do with the trade? I don't know, that struck me as an odd omission.
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Yeah, after reading some of these WP articles lately, I've been inclined to withdraw my previous defense of Cerrato because it seems like he's more in charge of scouting and recruiting than I previously thought.

The way it was painted was that he brings in guys then Gibbs and Co. say whether they want them or not.
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Re: Most likely to be back with the team next year?

Sounds like Saunders put his stamp of approval on Randle El and in the end even though the article doesn't specifically mention his view on Lloyd, he must have been involved in coming to the consensus that graded him higher than the other available WRs.

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One coach said he liked Lloyd's route-running and speed. And all the coaches marveled at his ability to make highlight-reel catches. The conversation ended with the coaches grading Lloyd ahead of Jurevicius and Bryant. The latter two graded higher than Randle El overall but Saunders wanted Randle El for his versatility and Gibbs liked his punt return skills.
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Again, after all the smoke is clear this offseason, MUCH like last season, one or two key players puts us right back in the race. NO OVERALL this year. Just maybe two key defensive players and we're set.
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