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Old 01-02-2007, 01:18 PM   #1
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Whats going on with our skins?

I am so frustrated at this team they went from being one of the storied franchises in the league to a laughing stock. The players that are coming to the team via free agency it seems only come for the big payday. We let our core group of players leave and the skins write them off (they become stars elsewhere). From the recent articles in the post and on espn.com it seems that everyone is unhappy, from coaches to players. I have never heard of a team talking this much in the media about the internal turmoil amongst a team. Gibbs has had 3 years to “right this ship” and during that time period we have seen two former skins coaches flourish and turn their respective teams around (chargers and bengals). Im really just venting, I am tired of hearing excuses, this past seasons team was the most pathetic skins team I have ever seen, no depth, no heart, and no class, that’s what this team has been reduced to.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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What's up with the microscopic font?
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:34 PM   #3
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I vote for poor front office management. This team has had zero stability since JKC died and refused to leave it to his son John. Having the egomaniacal Danny Snyder as an owner is just making things worse.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:45 PM   #4
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Re: Whats going on with our skins?

Whats odd is that we have no depth at some positions and a tremendous amount at others.
WR: What team has 5 WR's that have been starters in the league?
RB: Came in with Portis, Betts , Rock and Nemo. We cut nemo and sign Duckett. I know portis was injured, but you can't give away a 3rd round pick for a security blanket especially since gibbs was so high on betts.

DE and CB, we are weak.
I don't think we have any defensive ends on the team. Most importantly, Opposing QB's didnt notice them either.

CB, What about a security blanket if springs gets hurt? We go into a season with 4 CB's with one being primarily a special teams standout. 3 CB's! we can barely cover a 3WR set when healthy. Unfortunately we saw what happened we when arent...
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:14 PM   #5
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I vote for poor front office management. This team has had zero stability since JKC died and refused to leave it to his son John. Having the egomaniacal Danny Snyder as an owner is just making things worse.
Well, JKC is the one who refused to leave it to his son. But that's neither here nor there. Blaming Snyder is a tired excuse
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My bad, I typed it in word and copied it over.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:17 PM   #7
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My bad, I typed it in word and copied it over.
I fixed it for you
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:20 PM   #8
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I vote for poor front office management. This team has had zero stability since JKC died and refused to leave it to his son John. Having the egomaniacal Danny Snyder as an owner is just making things worse.
I actually thought that the estate taxes on the Redskins team were too much for JKC's son to afford so they were forced to sell the team - JKC's son actually wanted to own it but like many wealthy families who own businesses they were forced to sell when the owner died.
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Well, JKC is the one who refused to leave it to his son. But that's neither here nor there. Blaming Snyder is a tired excuse
You can't ignore the owner being part of the problem when a team is consistantly bad under his ownership. I'd blame the Pittsburgh Pirates owner for their last place finishes every year. Not spending, and spending poorly yield the same results.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:10 PM   #10
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I actually thought that the estate taxes on the Redskins team were too much for JKC's son to afford so they were forced to sell the team - JKC's son actually wanted to own it but like many wealthy families who own businesses they were forced to sell when the owner died.
My understanding is JKC left the team to his foundation with instructions to sell the team and give the profits to the foundation for scholarships etc. John made a bid but it was nowhere close to being competitive.
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I actually thought that the estate taxes on the Redskins team were too much for JKC's son to afford so they were forced to sell the team - JKC's son actually wanted to own it but like many wealthy families who own businesses they were forced to sell when the owner died.
I too thought that JKC was too much in debt when he died (estate taxes, etc..), that the family was basicly forced to sell the team...
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My understanding is JKC left the team to his foundation with instructions to sell the team and give the profits to the foundation for scholarships etc. John made a bid but it was nowhere close to being competitive.
That's pretty much it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:29 PM   #13
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Blaming Snyder is a tired excuse
Look there is no denying the fact that Snyder want's to win, but he wants to win it his way and his way hasn't worked for nine years...why should it start working now?
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:31 PM   #14
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I really hate Snyder he is a smug lil piece of sh*t, I used to see him all the time at Morton's in Reston (near ashburn where the skins practice). He would walk in with his big stupid stinking cigar and act like he owned the world, at the time it didnt bug me as much. He really ruined this franchise, the fans that are real fans cant afford to go to the games, its become and event for corporate shmoozing. I mean seriously if two people go to a skins game it literally comes down to between a $500-$700 day (im a season ticket holder and I have actually given my seats away because it becomes too expensive to go). Is that how you treat your fans? I would be a little more compasionate if the skins actually put a competitive team on the field, but when the hell was the last time that happened?
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:11 PM   #15
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As far as Snyder goes, didn't he do exactly what we were all screaming for him to do: Take his hands off, and leave it to the people who know football ?

He's listening to Gibbs, and doing everything Gibbs says.
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