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Old 01-03-2007, 11:29 AM   #46
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CP is not a leader at all. He's a derss up, party guy when they are winning and a whiner when losing. To me this is the whiner side coming out because things didnt go his way this year.

Personally I'd love to see CP traded for picks.
Your view doesn't surprise me at all. LOL.

I totally disagree. I think CP is our leader because he has the balls to step up and say something is wrong. Instead of these "anonymous" sources. At least he stepped up and put his name out there. Not only that but he gives 110% on the field. He's our best blocking back and our most reliable back (he doesn't fumble like Betts).

He's not whining, he's letting everyone know that whats going bothers him and he feels like he needs to say something.

The people who are coming out saying things as an anonymous source are the whiners IMO.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:04 PM   #47
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CP is not a leader at all. He's a derss up, party guy when they are winning and a whiner when losing. To me this is the whiner side coming out because things didnt go his way this year.

Personally I'd love to see CP traded for picks.
Did you actually listen to the interview? He wasn't whining at all, he was giving a state of the team interview.. He said time and time again, 'I do what they tell me to do'. He's lost more than he's won since he's been here and has been a standup guy the entire time. I don't get people who call him a whiner.
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Did you actually listen to the interview? He wasn't whining at all, he was giving a state of the team interview.. He said time and time again, 'I do what they tell me to do'. He's lost more than he's won since he's been here and has been a standup guy the entire time. I don't get people who call him a whiner.
I'm guessing not. It didn't sound like whining, it sounded like somebody frustrated with a bunch of BS issues keeping this team from reaching its potential.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:19 PM   #49
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i think gibbs needs to take full control or hand things over completely, this is getting painful
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Joe handled the running game, Al the passing game, the offense isn't on the same page.

He'd rather train by himself and most players feel the same way.. Too many OTAs and that's why players lose focus during the offseason..

The locker room is fractured by the 'un-named sources' and people back talking and back stabbing..

Players don't stand up and speak their minds but are ready to throw others under the bus. A serious lack of accountability among the players.

Ryan Clark was the epitome of a 'Core Redskin' but he's gone. Portis begged the Redskins to keep Clark and Pierce.. He said he didn't have a problem with AA but had a problem with paying him more to do what Clark was already doing..

Lloyd alienated his advocates (Portis was his biggest fan) and had the team lose faith in him due to his attitude..

Some offensive players and coaches don't talk to each other.. Portis doesn't talk to Saunders..

There's clearly a rift between him and Saunders based on how he was being used (or under used in the passing game) when he was in the games.

Portis doesn't like the side to side running game that Saunders was calling when he was in there and he wants to run the same plays that Betts was running, downhill, after Portis was hurt.

Campbell was restricted in the games he was in but the talent is there to be great, he needs to be let loose..

Great stuff, it's about 30 minutes to listen to the whole thing but if you have the time it's a great insight into what's really going on inside Redskin Park.
I heard Campbell or a coach say that before a game that JC gets to decide which plays that he was not comfortable with and they would not put them in the game plan. All new QB's are restricted with waht they will let them try to do so thats nothing new.
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I heard Campbell or a coach say that before a game that JC gets to decide which plays that he was not comfortable with and they would not put them in the game plan. All new QB's are restricted with waht they will let them try to do so thats nothing new.
Yeah Moss said that each week Campbell has said yes to more and more plays.
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i think gibbs needs to take full control or hand things over completely, this is getting painful
My biggest complaint (concern) about Gibbs, and I've mentioned this many times before, is that for all his deserved hype as being a leader and master motivator, he can't develop solid young coaches in his mold the way Walsh, Parcells, and even Schottenheimer have been able to. Maybe it's because you can't teach whatever it is he has. But for all their football knowledge, it'd be nice if some of these guys like Saunders, Williams, Lindsey, Hixon, etc. could develop Gibbs' communication skills with the players.
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People skills are TM by Gibbs.

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Old 01-03-2007, 02:35 PM   #54
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More and more that I think about it.....I'm starting to believe that Archuleta was snitch on the Tom Friend article.....
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Old 01-03-2007, 03:58 PM   #56
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You know alot of this is venting about a horrible season for the team and CP. He did say some things that are concerning that alot of us have been saying.

I thought after last year that this team had great chemistry, but during the offseason the FO starts throwing $ & draft picks around like its nothing. Well you know, it affends people that are "core" guys.

As for Lloyd, I have defended him throughout this year and I'm starting to change my mind a little. We don't know all the details, but if it walks and talks like a duck its probably a duck. He's a likeable guy but when things start coming from multiple sources its usually true. We'll see.
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One of the most interesting points I thought Portis made was that there really aren't any team captiains. Did anyone else find that, well, a little off putting? It reminds me of the way the coaching staff is put together, at times it seems like there's no captain or general who has the final say on everything. Anyways, I've never been on a sports team that has not had team captains. Some were picked by the coaches, some were picked by players, but nevertheless, they play a very important role on any team. Do you think on game days in Baltimore Brian Billick is like, I'm sorry Ray, we know you're a great leader, and you strike fear into the hearts opposing offenses, but we're gonna let Kyle Bowler be captain today. I DON'T THINK SO!!!! We need Captains on this team to help maintain order in the locker room, and we need Joe Gibbs to be the General of the entire organization, no questions asked. Agree?

Here is my problem with Portis. I love the way this guy plays. No one plays harder. But if your going to be a leader and a Captain then you need to set an example year round. Portis doesn't like to practice, bitches about preseason, doesn't like to lift weights or train in DC/ Ashburn. He said on the radio yesterday that after they train there is nothing to do in Ashburn in the offseason. He said it takes too much out of him to travel back and forth to DC and Miami during the offseason. Basically all he wants to do is play in the games which in the end he is paid to do. All these "U" guys want to do their own thing in South Beach. So IMO, although Portis is one of our best players, he's not a team leader. And in the end you need your best players to be leaders on and off the field. The Captains on this team are or should be: Jansen, Springs, M. Washington, Sellers, Samuels and soon Jason C.
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Here is my problem with Portis. I love the way this guy plays. No one plays harder. But if your going to be a leader and a Captain then you need to set an example year round. Portis doesn't like to practice, bitches about preseason, doesn't like to lift weights or train in DC/ Ashburn. He said on the radio yesterday that after they train there is nothing to do in Ashburn in the offseason. He said it takes too much out of him to travel back and forth to DC and Miami during the offseason. Basically all he wants to do is play in the games which in the end he is paid to do. All these "U" guys want to do their own thing in South Beach. So IMO, although Portis is one of our best players, he's not a team leader. And in the end you need your best players to be leaders on and off the field. The Captains on this team are or should be: Jansen, Springs, M. Washington, Sellers, Samuels and soon Jason C.
I would add Randy Thomas as a potential captain.
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Here is my problem with Portis. I love the way this guy plays. No one plays harder. But if your going to be a leader and a Captain then you need to set an example year round. Portis doesn't like to practice, bitches about preseason, doesn't like to lift weights or train in DC/ Ashburn. He said on the radio yesterday that after they train there is nothing to do in Ashburn in the offseason. He said it takes too much out of him to travel back and forth to DC and Miami during the offseason. Basically all he wants to do is play in the games which in the end he is paid to do. All these "U" guys want to do their own thing in South Beach. So IMO, although Portis is one of our best players, he's not a team leader. And in the end you need your best players to be leaders on and off the field. The Captains on this team are or should be: Jansen, Springs, M. Washington, Sellers, Samuels and soon Jason C.
Ok, I'll agree that maybe Portis would not make the best captain, but it's really hard to tell unless he's given the opportuntiy and then fails at it. However, we definitely need to have captains, they should let the team vote on it. I think Rock would make a good captain too.
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Old 01-03-2007, 04:42 PM   #60
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Yeah, one comment that Portis made on the interview made no sense to me at all. As mentioned before, Portis said he doesn't like to stay in the area in the off season because there's nothing to do, and that's when people start partying too much, or something to that effect. Haha, how's it gonna be any better in Miami avoiding partying?! Are you kidding me?! It would be 10 times worse!!
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