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Old 03-03-2007, 12:54 AM   #16
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Can anyone tell me about offensive guard Derrick Dockery that the Buffalo Bills just paid $49 million over seven years? In the Buffalo media they claim this guy is a stud, that Dockery was a large part of the Redskins rushing success last season. Is this guy really a stud? Is he overrated? Is he the superb run blocker that he is billed to be in the Buffalo press? Would you have preferred that he resigned with the Redskins?
I'm pretty much going to echo what others had to say about Dock. He's a good guy, an above-average guard, and you will like him. I read the Bills' press release and, contrary to its claims, he's not the best in pass protection, but he's a good road-grader. He doesn't have as much power as you would expect for a guy his size (he could be bullied by MLBs he was supposed to block on occasion), but he's still pretty powerful.

I don't think he's worth close to what you guys paid, but maybe I'm thinking in terms of 2006 cap dollars. The market is all screwy right now, so it's hard to assess whether you got him at a number above market-price, or way above market-price. Best of luck next season.
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:56 AM   #17
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he was awfully lazy until his contract year. he was NO BETTER than our 3rd best offensive linemen last year, and that's an insane contract for his production.

I would have liked to keep him for continuity, but i don't think he's irreplaceable by any means. He's no where close to hutchinson.
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he was awfully lazy until last year. he was NO BETTER than our 3rd offensive linemen last year, and that's an insane contract for his production.

I would have liked to keep him for continuity, but i don't think he's irreplaceable by any means. He's no where close to hutchinson.
In all fairness, scouts said that he would be a project when we drafted him. Most thought that he had the potential to be dominant but would take several years to develop. Maybe they were right and, with Buges' guidance, he's just now hitting his stride.
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Old 03-03-2007, 01:30 AM   #19
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In all fairness, scouts said that he would be a project when we drafted him. Most thought that he had the potential to be dominant but would take several years to develop. Maybe they were right and, with Buges' guidance, he's just now hitting his stride.
that's an awfully big risk to bet 49$mill on.
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that's an awfully big risk to bet 49$mill on.
The Redskins have taken that risk a few time and some have payed off other no so much! As for Dock I give him around 3 years before we all say I told you so when his name comes up on the cut list!
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I was hoping to keep Dock around, but HELL NO at those prices. Joe Gibbs is building a championship team here and I think people like Doc don't understand things like that. Unfortunately for him he's headed to Buffalo.

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he was awfully lazy until his contract year. he was NO BETTER than our 3rd best offensive linemen last year, and that's an insane contract for his production.

I would have liked to keep him for continuity, but i don't think he's irreplaceable by any means. He's no where close to hutchinson.

I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.
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Old 03-03-2007, 03:57 AM   #23
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wade is a FA, no guarantee he'll be back (unless i missed something recent). he's an NFL starter we were lucky to get last year.
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I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.
Thrid best???? So I looked at a few games from this year. No not the third best!! He was on the ground a lot and missed to many blocks. For being a 4 year vet to many mistakes. I really think he is as good as he will get!
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:11 AM   #25
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We have been sayng for weeks around here that he is overrated and that anyone who signs him is a sucker.
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i think alot of us wanted him back, but definitely not at that kind of money. who is buffalo's line coach? that might tell you how good, or bad, dockery will be up yonder
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I wanted Dock back as well but not for that kind of money. I will tell you he always seems to hustle and I can remember several times where he has pounced on a loose ball 10-15 yards down the field to save a drive. I think you will like him as much as we liked him here and he is a good player.
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Dock GOOD guard. Paid WAY TO MUCH for his services!
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Dockery is a good, solid starter in this league. But there's no way in hell he deserved a deal that big, no way. The more I think about the deal he got, the more it amazes me.
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I agree. He got awfully serious last year all of the sudden. If he had taken that approach the previous two seasons he might be worth the money they paid him.

Also, I agree that he is the 3rd best lineman. People are saying he's the worst of the 5 but I would rank them like this (just on 2006):

1. Samuels
2. Thomas
3. Dockery
4. Jansen
5. Rabach

I'm eager to see more from Wade.

I would be interested to see how you all rate them.
Good point on your ranking. I think most people here put Jansen above Dockery because they instinctively believe Jansen is a Grade A offensive linemen. In reality, his performance has slipped quite a bit over the past two years.
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