What are our needs now?

joethiesmanfan · 03-04-2007, 01:35 PM

I would rather be trying to find a free agent OG than a free agent DL, CB, or MLB. I think we are in good shape and we have made some realistic pragmatic moves in free agency. We finally replaced Pierce and Smoot. We got CP for Champ. So we have made the proper corrections. We use the draft to get a DE. Golston, Montgomery, and Griffin. Andre Carter, Daniels, and #6 pick. LBs looking good. CBs looking better. Safeties with Prieaulou back looking good. I'm happy. Offense is great. The only thing you are pursuing is a bakup tight end. 6th round pick, or undrafted free agent can get you that.

johnjaywilliams · 03-05-2007, 11:43 AM

since we have MLB Fletcher and Apparently Smoot and the #6 pick in this year draft. We need to get the safety from LSU landry, cuz taylor needs someone who can excel with and form an deadly tandem for yeares to come. I dont see drafting an d-lineman as a need cuz when Cornelius Griffin & Joe Salave'a are healthy they pain in the ass for any team. and if u look at d-lineman that were pick in the first day they have not turn out good early as they was expected to. Anyways own front four is deadly when they are heathly so i say go wit a safe and sure pick, tha boy landry is a monster, if anyone feel diff holla at me

That Guy · 03-05-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by johnjaywilliams

since we have MLB Fletcher and Apparently Smoot and the #6 pick in this year draft. We need to get the safety from LSU landry, cuz taylor needs someone who can excel with and form an deadly tandem for yeares to come. I dont see drafting an d-lineman as a need cuz when Cornelius Griffin & Joe Salave'a are healthy they pain in the ass for any team. and if u look at d-lineman that were pick in the first day they have not turn out good early as they was expected to. Anyways own front four is deadly when they are heathly so i say go wit a safe and sure pick, tha boy landry is a monster, if anyone feel diff holla at me

the DL are all like, 32 years old. joe was terrible last year and a lot of the coverage issues last year were too to the poor DL pressure and the constant injuries there. wasting such a high pick on a tertiary need when we can get a guy off the street to be okay there would be insane.

landry is great, but he's absolutely not what the skins need right now.

RobH4413 · 03-05-2007, 12:13 PM

I may be the only one to say this, but I want a veteran receiver as well. I'm not saying break the bank, but snatch one of those guys out there for a 2-3yr 4mil/yr contract or something. If one of our receivers go down, there isn't much else that we have.

I'm curious to how Mike Espy is developing.

I think our priorities are:

1)DL
2)OL
3)CB depth (one more average cb)
4)WR (one more average vet WR)

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-05-2007, 12:17 PM

1. A starting DE or DT via the draft.
2. A replacement for Dock.
3. To keep Springs, or get another bona fide starting corner.
4. Depth at TE and along the OL.

SmootSmack · 03-05-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

Man. We're screwed. We need at least another day one pick. And without much leverage, we'll have to trade away next year's first rounder to get one. Sigh.

We need to draft Alan Branch or Jamaal Anderson in the first round and trade away next year's first round pick (I know no one likes this idea, I don't either) for a mid to high second rounder and draft a top 5 prospect OL.

Well, there is some talk that the Redskins are interested in Justin Blalock. Now, as I've suggested before I'd like to see them trade their #6 and a conditional 2008 pick to the Texans for the #8 and #39. And draft Okoye/Anderson and Wilson/Houston. However, with that #39 pick they could draft Blalock instead.

I think ultimately what will happen is they'll either try to develop Pucillo or Wade or get someone late in the draft and go under the thinking (however ill-fated it is) that if anyone can find diamond OG in the rough it's Joe Bugel.

wbecker999 · 03-05-2007, 01:09 PM

Wade did a real nice job filling in at OT last year when Jansen was hurt
Lets move him to guard and get younger on the d-line

sportscurmudgeon · 03-05-2007, 01:11 PM

Skins need a starting guard AND at least one competent back-up offensive lineman who can play virtually any position on the line. There are two needs here.

Skins need at least one new DT. He can be a run-stuffer (in the mold of Sam Adams) or he can be a guy who will reliably collapse the pocket from the inside on pass plays. At the moment, the Skins have a bunch of DTs on the squad who do not do either of these things reliably. There's one more need - - and truth be told, it's probably two more needs.

Skins need an upgrade at DE. This is one more need - and I'd make it the least important thing on the list.

Skins coaching staff needs to decide if Rocky can actually play OLB for 50% of the defensive snaps this year. If he can do that without embarrassing himself, fine; if not, they need another OLB. I know that Marshall will move back outside this year, but you cannot go into a season with only 3 solid linebackers. I'll agree for the moment - until he shows me otherwise - that Rocky can play most of the time without soiling himself in public. This is a need that might show up later, but for the moment we can ignore it.

Skins need a safety who can cover pass receivers. They don't have one; that's why they led the league in giving up big plays to opposing offenses. This is another area of need that has to be fixed.

Skins coaches need to determine if this corps of wide receivers is sufficient. Did they all have down years at the same time last season or do two of them just stink? They need more production from the WR spot and the coaches demned well better realize that and figure out who the people are to produce that added production.

In summary:

Very Important Needs:

Starting Guard
Back-up OL
One Defesnive Tackle
Safety Who Can Cover

Important Needs:

Second DT
Upgrade DE

Areas of Concern/Question Marks:

WR corps
OLB

ArtMonkDrillz · 03-05-2007, 01:15 PM

what about a blocking TE?
are we set with Suisham (sp?)?
are Springs, Smoot, Rogers, and Ade our only cornerbacks? are we okay with that?

jbcjr14 · 03-05-2007, 01:15 PM

I have seen Justin Blaylock play college ball for the past few years here in Austin, TX. The guy is an excellent OL and would fit in nicely with our scheme. I like the idea of trading down with the Texans and/or someone to pick up another Day 1 pick if we can get the DL/OL guys we want. If not, then we need to bite the bullet and take a DL with that #6 pick.

Rajmahal33 · 03-05-2007, 01:23 PM

I agree we desperately need a starting OG but we don't needs a backup OL over a starting DE. Our biggest problem last year on defense was that we weren't getting after any QB we faced (til the end of the season). A stellar pass rush makes a shaky secondary look above average, but the opposite is not true. Therefore, we can pass on Landry and look to trade the #6 pick. If we can't get a suitable trade then I fully expect us to go for a DL with that pick.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-05-2007, 01:29 PM

I think a blocking tight end is pretty easy to find. I would not obsess on signing an expensive free agent to do that.

Kickers are also players who can be had for reasonable prices on short order - assuming that the coaches and scouts have a good eye for ability among the guys who are "unencumbered" at the moment. I would not waste time and effort on a kicker now.

Assuming that Springs stays here and none of the top 3 CBs breaks a leg in training camp, I think they are fine at CB - - given the problems elsewhere.

The reason I suggest the Skins need a back-up on the OL is pure statistics. The Skins basically had no injuries on the OL last year that cost the team a series of games without a starter. Having that happen two years in a row is not all that probable. So, a competent back-up may be a very important link in the chain...

That Guy · 03-06-2007, 01:50 AM

we had ray brown, then todd wade. hopefully we can find another late hire to do that depth job for us this year.

Aussie_Skins_Fan · 03-06-2007, 05:12 AM

I think that our needs right now, i.e. this offseason are simple: DE. We have addressed MLB and CB and i beleive our offence is going to explode next year, even without Doc.

Our need on the D-Line is obvious and our depth at DE is alot worse than our DT's. With Griff-Golston-Mont-and Big Joe (Hopefully all healthy) I think we are set at DT for next year. Carter showed great imporvement through his first year back at DE so i think he's set on one side of the line, however the other side is a serious concern. Daniels and Wynn are both well past their best, and IMO are taking up too much cap space for what they contribute, neither rushed the passer or stopped the run last season. Cases have been made for both another pass rush 'specialist' and a 'run stopper' and which one we end up going for only time will tell, but i think it will depend on how good our staff think Golston and co will be next year.

We won't be able to find a DE good enough in FA given cap problems and crazy contracts!

So given that this is the last year that we will have such a high pick for a while (FINGERS CROSSED) i think we should use it and get a franchise DE.

GTripp0012 · 03-06-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

The reason I suggest the Skins need a back-up on the OL is pure statistics. The Skins basically had no injuries on the OL last year that cost the team a series of games without a starter. Having that happen two years in a row is not all that probable. So, a competent back-up may be a very important link in the chain...

Wonderful application of the law of averages. I was pondering this to myself recently. The 5 starting Redskin lineman all started 16 games except Jansen who started 15. This was very, very fortunate. Almost certainly next year injuries to the offensive line are going to be a factor.

This means we shouldn't be spending massive amounts on a OG when the important thing is to get considerable depth around the entire line.

03-04-2007, 01:35 PM	#31
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: What are our needs now? I would rather be trying to find a free agent OG than a free agent DL, CB, or MLB. I think we are in good shape and we have made some realistic pragmatic moves in free agency. We finally replaced Pierce and Smoot. We got CP for Champ. So we have made the proper corrections. We use the draft to get a DE. Golston, Montgomery, and Griffin. Andre Carter, Daniels, and #6 pick. LBs looking good. CBs looking better. Safeties with Prieaulou back looking good. I'm happy. Offense is great. The only thing you are pursuing is a bakup tight end. 6th round pick, or undrafted free agent can get you that.

03-05-2007, 11:43 AM	#32
johnjaywilliams Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 28	Re: What are our needs now? since we have MLB Fletcher and Apparently Smoot and the #6 pick in this year draft. We need to get the safety from LSU landry, cuz taylor needs someone who can excel with and form an deadly tandem for yeares to come. I dont see drafting an d-lineman as a need cuz when Cornelius Griffin & Joe Salave'a are healthy they pain in the ass for any team. and if u look at d-lineman that were pick in the first day they have not turn out good early as they was expected to. Anyways own front four is deadly when they are heathly so i say go wit a safe and sure pick, tha boy landry is a monster, if anyone feel diff holla at me

03-05-2007, 12:13 PM	#34
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 27 Posts: 2,382	Re: What are our needs now? I may be the only one to say this, but I want a veteran receiver as well. I'm not saying break the bank, but snatch one of those guys out there for a 2-3yr 4mil/yr contract or something. If one of our receivers go down, there isn't much else that we have. I'm curious to how Mike Espy is developing. I think our priorities are: 1)DL 2)OL 3)CB depth (one more average cb) 4)WR (one more average vet WR) __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

03-05-2007, 12:17 PM	#35
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: What are our needs now? 1. A starting DE or DT via the draft. 2. A replacement for Dock. 3. To keep Springs, or get another bona fide starting corner. 4. Depth at TE and along the OL.

03-05-2007, 01:09 PM	#37
wbecker999 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Age: 37 Posts: 93	Re: What are our needs now? Wade did a real nice job filling in at OT last year when Jansen was hurt Lets move him to guard and get younger on the d-line

03-05-2007, 01:11 PM	#38
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: What are our needs now? Skins need a starting guard AND at least one competent back-up offensive lineman who can play virtually any position on the line. There are two needs here. Skins need at least one new DT. He can be a run-stuffer (in the mold of Sam Adams) or he can be a guy who will reliably collapse the pocket from the inside on pass plays. At the moment, the Skins have a bunch of DTs on the squad who do not do either of these things reliably. There's one more need - - and truth be told, it's probably two more needs. Skins need an upgrade at DE. This is one more need - and I'd make it the least important thing on the list. Skins coaching staff needs to decide if Rocky can actually play OLB for 50% of the defensive snaps this year. If he can do that without embarrassing himself, fine; if not, they need another OLB. I know that Marshall will move back outside this year, but you cannot go into a season with only 3 solid linebackers. I'll agree for the moment - until he shows me otherwise - that Rocky can play most of the time without soiling himself in public. This is a need that might show up later, but for the moment we can ignore it. Skins need a safety who can cover pass receivers. They don't have one; that's why they led the league in giving up big plays to opposing offenses. This is another area of need that has to be fixed. Skins coaches need to determine if this corps of wide receivers is sufficient. Did they all have down years at the same time last season or do two of them just stink? They need more production from the WR spot and the coaches demned well better realize that and figure out who the people are to produce that added production. In summary: Very Important Needs: Starting Guard Back-up OL One Defesnive Tackle Safety Who Can Cover Important Needs: Second DT Upgrade DE Areas of Concern/Question Marks: WR corps OLB __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-05-2007, 01:15 PM	#39
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 30 Posts: 7,758	Re: What are our needs now? what about a blocking TE? are we set with Suisham (sp?)? are Springs, Smoot, Rogers, and Ade our only cornerbacks? are we okay with that? __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

03-05-2007, 01:15 PM	#40
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 2,001	Re: What are our needs now? I have seen Justin Blaylock play college ball for the past few years here in Austin, TX. The guy is an excellent OL and would fit in nicely with our scheme. I like the idea of trading down with the Texans and/or someone to pick up another Day 1 pick if we can get the DL/OL guys we want. If not, then we need to bite the bullet and take a DL with that #6 pick. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

03-05-2007, 01:23 PM	#41
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: What are our needs now? I agree we desperately need a starting OG but we don't needs a backup OL over a starting DE. Our biggest problem last year on defense was that we weren't getting after any QB we faced (til the end of the season). A stellar pass rush makes a shaky secondary look above average, but the opposite is not true. Therefore, we can pass on Landry and look to trade the #6 pick. If we can't get a suitable trade then I fully expect us to go for a DL with that pick. __________________ McNasty FTW!

03-05-2007, 01:29 PM	#42
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: What are our needs now? I think a blocking tight end is pretty easy to find. I would not obsess on signing an expensive free agent to do that. Kickers are also players who can be had for reasonable prices on short order - assuming that the coaches and scouts have a good eye for ability among the guys who are "unencumbered" at the moment. I would not waste time and effort on a kicker now. Assuming that Springs stays here and none of the top 3 CBs breaks a leg in training camp, I think they are fine at CB - - given the problems elsewhere. The reason I suggest the Skins need a back-up on the OL is pure statistics. The Skins basically had no injuries on the OL last year that cost the team a series of games without a starter. Having that happen two years in a row is not all that probable. So, a competent back-up may be a very important link in the chain... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-06-2007, 01:50 AM	#43
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: What are our needs now? we had ray brown, then todd wade. hopefully we can find another late hire to do that depth job for us this year. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

03-06-2007, 05:12 AM	#44
Aussie_Skins_Fan Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 61	Re: What are our needs now? I think that our needs right now, i.e. this offseason are simple: DE. We have addressed MLB and CB and i beleive our offence is going to explode next year, even without Doc. Our need on the D-Line is obvious and our depth at DE is alot worse than our DT's. With Griff-Golston-Mont-and Big Joe (Hopefully all healthy) I think we are set at DT for next year. Carter showed great imporvement through his first year back at DE so i think he's set on one side of the line, however the other side is a serious concern. Daniels and Wynn are both well past their best, and IMO are taking up too much cap space for what they contribute, neither rushed the passer or stopped the run last season. Cases have been made for both another pass rush 'specialist' and a 'run stopper' and which one we end up going for only time will tell, but i think it will depend on how good our staff think Golston and co will be next year. We won't be able to find a DE good enough in FA given cap problems and crazy contracts! So given that this is the last year that we will have such a high pick for a while (FINGERS CROSSED) i think we should use it and get a franchise DE. __________________ Even from the other side of the world, i still HAIL!

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