How the Lance Briggs deal started.

RedskinPete · 03-27-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Then where are all the Lombardi trophies he's been hiding?

Doing well running a Starbucks doesn't necessarily mean you'll do equally as well in a Chess Tournament.

We should hope to do as well as he has. But so far his football in wins and loses has been a failure. As for making money for the Redskins he has made a boat load!!! Will that end soon if they don't start winning...no we love the Redskins and football. Jack kent Cook is looking pretty good now!

jbcjr14 · 03-27-2007, 01:01 PM

I am hoping this deal is total BS. In fact...f this deal, I smell it!

Mattyk · 03-27-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

ESPN radio just announced that the deal has officially been offered. Our 6th for Briggs and their 31st
ESPN.com - NFL - Agent: Bears' Briggs could go to Redskins in trade

This article doesn't say anything about a deal being officially on the table.

ArtMonkDrillz · 03-27-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing has been officially proposed yet so let's not get too crazy. I still think this deal is 100% BS.

I really hope you're right. The thought of making this deal has me so mad and frustrated that I just slapped an office temp.
I used to stand up for Danny Boy quite a bit because I felt like he did want to win and did want the team to do well, but if it's true that he came up with this BS over martinis and it goes through the way it stands now I may have to egg his house, or at least his front gate.

Mattyk · 03-27-2007, 01:07 PM

Even if this deal happens I don't understand why people are getting so crazy about it. If we can still come out of the draft with a quality defensive lineman I think this is a win/win scenario for both teams.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-27-2007, 01:08 PM

I guess Joe was into the deal. Although it did start last night in a bar. I'm guessing deals get done like this sometimes. I just don't understand why we are making his offer?

If it happens here one of Joe Gibbs first few lines at the press conference... " I really like to say when you have a chance to add a player of his claiber you do it."

I mean come on we don't need him right now there are other issues that they can address with this pick.

mlmpetert · 03-27-2007, 01:10 PM

this is absolutely ridiculous. I hate Danielle Snyder

Schneed10 · 03-27-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing has been officially proposed yet so let's not get too crazy. I still think this deal is 100% BS.

I pray that you're right. But as much as Pastabelly dumps on us, he's usually pretty solid with the inside info.

Hopefully he's understating what we'd get in such a trade scenario. Maybe, just maybe, he's leaving out the part about us getting a 3rd round pick in addition.

Or best of all, he's just completely wrong about the whole thing.

Schneed10 · 03-27-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Even if this deal happens I don't understand why people are getting so crazy about it. If we can still come out of the draft with a quality defensive lineman I think this is a win/win scenario for both teams.

Well while we're discussing the if's, just think what we could get in a trade package if Adrian Peterson falls to us at 6.

It's just a retarded deal. It doesn't fill a glaring need, and it buries one of our promising young prospects (Rocky) in the depth chart.

Mattyk · 03-27-2007, 01:16 PM

Normally I hate to cite PFT, but this actually makes sense with a nice dig on Pasta Belly:

BRIGGS-TO-'SKINS MAKES NO SENSE

Apart from the fact that Bears linebacker Lance Briggs became a star in a pure Tampa 2 scheme that the Redskins don't run, there's another reason why it makes no sense, in our view, for the 'Skins to add Briggs to the team.

With two big-money free agent linebackers -- Marcus Washington and London Fletcher-Baker -- already in the starting lineup, the 'Skins wouldn't be getting the best return on their investment in Washington, Fletcher-Baker, and Briggs.

Why? Because a defense has three linebackers on the field roughly half of the time.

In the nickel and dime defenses, linebackers are replaced by defensive backs. Teams use the nickel whenever the opponent brings in a third receiver. Typically, that happens in second and long or third and more than three or four yards.

At a time when the 'Skins are still thought to be interested in adding Dre' Bly to a corps of cornerbacks that includes Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot, it's simply not a good investment of cap dollars to write a big bonus check to Briggs, unless the team is thinking about parting ways with Washington and his base salary of $4 million in 2007.

Meanwhile, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli is once again creating the impression that he broke the story of a possible trade of Briggs to the 'Skins, even though Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com and Adam Schefter of NFL Network had the story well in advance.

(Free advice to Len: With the departure of Michael Irvin and the "reassignment" of Joe Theismann, the folks in Bristol are demonstrating a willingness to heed and to respond to accurate and reasonable external criticism of their employees.)

GTripp0012 · 03-27-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Even if this deal happens I don't understand why people are getting so crazy about it. If we can still come out of the draft with a quality defensive lineman I think this is a win/win scenario for both teams.

The problem is just as you state it. It's now an "if" situation if this deal goes through instead of a "who".

Monkeydad · 03-27-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing has been officially proposed yet so let's not get too crazy. I still think this deal is 100% BS.

I hope you're right like you usually are.

Schneed10 · 03-27-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Normally I hate to cite PFT, but this actually makes sense with a nice dig on Pasta Belly:

BRIGGS-TO-'SKINS MAKES NO SENSE

Apart from the fact that Bears linebacker Lance Briggs became a star in a pure Tampa 2 scheme that the Redskins don't run, there's another reason why it makes no sense, in our view, for the 'Skins to add Briggs to the team.

With two big-money free agent linebackers -- Marcus Washington and London Fletcher-Baker -- already in the starting lineup, the 'Skins wouldn't be getting the best return on their investment in Washington, Fletcher-Baker, and Briggs.

Why? Because a defense has three linebackers on the field roughly half of the time.

In the nickel and dime defenses, linebackers are replaced by defensive backs. Teams use the nickel whenever the opponent brings in a third receiver. Typically, that happens in second and long or third and more than three or four yards.

At a time when the 'Skins are still thought to be interested in adding Dre' Bly to a corps of cornerbacks that includes Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot, it's simply not a good investment of cap dollars to write a big bonus check to Briggs, unless the team is thinking about parting ways with Washington and his base salary of $4 million in 2007.

Meanwhile, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli is once again creating the impression that he broke the story of a possible trade of Briggs to the 'Skins, even though Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com and Adam Schefter of NFL Network had the story well in advance.

(Free advice to Len: With the departure of Michael Irvin and the "reassignment" of Joe Theismann, the folks in Bristol are demonstrating a willingness to heed and to respond to accurate and reasonable external criticism of their employees.)

LOL, at least they took a shot at the fat ass.

SmootSmack · 03-27-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Even if this deal happens I don't understand why people are getting so crazy about it. If we can still come out of the draft with a quality defensive lineman I think this is a win/win scenario for both teams.

I think it's because some people don't know how to do anything but complain. It's like the folks who keep bitching about how we never re-sign our own guys in spite of all the re-signings we've completed this offseason. That mentality will only change when the team starts winning, if even then.

ArtMonkDrillz · 03-27-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think it's because some people don't know how to do anything but complain. It's like the folks who keep bitching about how we never re-sign our own guys in spite of all the re-signings we've completed this offseason. That mentality will only change when the team starts winning, if even then.

So you would be happy with this deal and think it would make the team better?

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03-27-2007, 01:08 PM	#21
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03-27-2007, 01:10 PM	#22
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,208	Re: How the Lance Briggs deal started. this is absolutely ridiculous. I hate Danielle Snyder

03-27-2007, 01:16 PM	#25
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,203	Re: How the Lance Briggs deal started. Normally I hate to cite PFT, but this actually makes sense with a nice dig on Pasta Belly: BRIGGS-TO-'SKINS MAKES NO SENSE Apart from the fact that Bears linebacker Lance Briggs became a star in a pure Tampa 2 scheme that the Redskins don't run, there's another reason why it makes no sense, in our view, for the 'Skins to add Briggs to the team. With two big-money free agent linebackers -- Marcus Washington and London Fletcher-Baker -- already in the starting lineup, the 'Skins wouldn't be getting the best return on their investment in Washington, Fletcher-Baker, and Briggs. Why? Because a defense has three linebackers on the field roughly half of the time. In the nickel and dime defenses, linebackers are replaced by defensive backs. Teams use the nickel whenever the opponent brings in a third receiver. Typically, that happens in second and long or third and more than three or four yards. At a time when the 'Skins are still thought to be interested in adding Dre' Bly to a corps of cornerbacks that includes Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot, it's simply not a good investment of cap dollars to write a big bonus check to Briggs, unless the team is thinking about parting ways with Washington and his base salary of $4 million in 2007. Meanwhile, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli is once again creating the impression that he broke the story of a possible trade of Briggs to the 'Skins, even though Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com and Adam Schefter of NFL Network had the story well in advance. (Free advice to Len: With the departure of Michael Irvin and the "reassignment" of Joe Theismann, the folks in Bristol are demonstrating a willingness to heed and to respond to accurate and reasonable external criticism of their employees.) __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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