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Old 03-27-2007, 10:09 PM   #31
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Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade

Bears say 'No' to Briggs deal


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The Bears are saying no to a Lance Briggs trade to Washington. That stand won't change during this week's owners meeting, but don't be surprised if they take the weekend and the early part of next week to study the concept.
The Redskins are willing to drop from No. 6 in the first round to No. 31 in a trade for the Bears linebacker. The Bears biggest problem is feeling bullied, which is why their initial position is "No."
Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, has a great relationship with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, so it's no surprise he could use Snyder to shake up the Bears. The other problem is the Bears don't want to draft as high as No. 6. Still, this might be an interesting offer for a franchise player threatening to miss 10 regular season games. Give them the weekend to think about it.
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:59 AM   #32
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Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade

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There's a good chance Rosenhaus stirred all this up.

Or maybe the Skins actually offered it and the Bears saved our asses.

Either way, it ain't goin down, so it's fine by me.
Maybe it was an April Fools Day joke planned by Snyder and Rosenhaus...

which almost turned out catastrophic.
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:49 AM   #33
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Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade

The trade is definitely still a possibility. The shifting desert sands of rumorland are full of mirages. However, now we have the Bears publicly saying they are thinking it over. So that is real.

They say they weren't expecting this offer and want to consider it before deciding.

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It seems to me they'll take the trade, getting a young player who will be less impactful on the cap, with more years ahead of him than Briggs, and who will be top tier in talent.

If it happens, we'll get a proven player who will lift us defensively. I don't buy this overconcern about the defensive line. We have players there, and we will have possibly the Bears' first round choice to bring in a bright prospect, probably a defensive lineman. Yes, we need to improve there, but the situation isn't dire like some fans think as far as I am concerned.

The Redskins would get two, really good, (probably) defensive players instead of just one with the sixth pick.
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Old 03-28-2007, 06:53 AM   #34
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I think i would have went to redskin park and knocked some heads had they gone through with a trade for that bone head.
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:54 AM   #35
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Re: Mort: Chicago Not Interested in Briggs' Trade

yo the FO is really crazy i wounder is it one person that making these calls or is it a group of crazy ass suckers. i am glad this trade is not going to happened.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:01 AM   #36
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If the trade offer is true I think it's only a matter of time before it happens, the Bears figured if we are dumb enough to make this deal we might be dumb enough to kick something else in, and thier probably right.

I think all we need is one more LB and we are on our way, Briggs should make all the difference in the world, let the Bears trade down and draft a LB who's unproven to play on a championship caliber team, they will probably deal down and end up with 2 pro bowlers. As for us we will find that Briggs is not a pass rusher which is what we need, nor can he take on opposing guards and tackles which is something else we need. So let's get a LB who will get knocked into the parking lot by lineman with the likes of Andre Carter getting man handled by TE's leaving tackles and guards to pancake Briggs. Not to worry after a couple of weeks of talking about this trade they will have everyone believing what a great move it is, until we actually see we are getting a good LB not a great LB, and still need D-linemen, a safety, and a front line CB, and a guard.

The fact that we even made this proposal [if true] just shows the utter stupidity and incompetency of all involved.
Despite the vitriol of the criticism I think I have to agree with most points here. Lance Briggs is not the answer, he is just another high priced player groomed by another team. If we actually kept a couple of our draft picks maybe we could draft guys like Briggs in the Third Round (i.e. Cooley and Dock) and develop them ourselves rather than having to look to other teams to develop talent. Do the Redskins have so little faith in their scouting department that they don't even think they can score a Pro Bowl caliber player at the #6 overall pick? I went back and looked at Briggs' stats and, as Offhiss said, he has never proven himself a pass rusher, never having more than, I think, 2.5 sacks in a season. I guess he could be sort of a Derrick Brooks-style Willie Backer, but is there no chance that Rocky can be that guy? He was the 34th overall pick last year, basically a first round talent. If we have already busted out on the 34th pick then what makes everyone think whoever they get at 31 will be any good.

Two things occurred to me when I heard the Bears had apparently rejected the trade. It was a BAD move for both teams and apparently the Bears don't see anyone they really need at #6 and right after that I thought that they are posturing for something else. Hell if Danny thinks dropping 25 picks is a steal for a franchise player (b/c they normally cost two first right! What a business man, great deal!) then maybe they can squeeze out a future 2nd or 3rd as well. Hell we gave up Champ (at one of the top 3 most elite positions) and a 2nd for Portis (who I love, but who plays a non-elite position); we gave up a 3rd for Brunell who would have gotten cut and when no one else would have traded anything more than a 6th; we gave up a 3rd and a 4th for Llyod. Hell, if the Bears hold out long enough maybe they can get Dan to throw in Redskins One as part of the package along with our entire draft for the next three years. I thought this was finally the offseason when the Redskins just played it conservatively, that lasted less than a MONTH! Hopefully all of this is moot and the Bears have saved us, but I'm not so sure that is the case...I think we might hear more about this before it is done.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:07 AM   #37
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Glad to finally see a rational, clear-thinking GM finally steps in and makes the right decision for the Redskins.

Now if we could only get Jerry Angelo to work for us.
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This is from sportsline:

A source close to Washington owner Daniel Snyder on Tuesday denied the club is close to making a deal for Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs.

"Not true," he said.

Reports indicated that Washington is willing to switch first-round positions with Chicago -- sacrificing the sixth overall pick for the 31st -- to gain Briggs, the Bears' unhappy franchise player. But that's not true, either, said the source.

"That's just Drew talking," he said.

Drew is Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for Briggs, and it was he who escorted the Bears' linebacker to a table Monday night where Snyder was dining at the annual NFL owners' meetings. Also there, according to others, were Washington's vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato and Baltimore owner Steve Bischiotti.

Anyway, the source said, Rosenhaus said something about how much Briggs could do for the Redskins and suggested Snyder make a deal for him. Snyder responded by saying the Redskins and Bears should switch first-round positions to gain Briggs.

"It was innocent and meant as a joke," said the source, "but it's taken off."
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:11 AM   #39
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A source close to Washington owner Daniel Snyder on Tuesday denied the club is close to making a deal for Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs.

"Not true," he said.

Reports indicated that Washington is willing to switch first-round positions with Chicago -- sacrificing the sixth overall pick for the 31st -- to gain Briggs, the Bears' unhappy franchise player. But that's not true, either, said the source.

"That's just Drew talking," he said.

Drew is Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for Briggs, and it was he who escorted the Bears' linebacker to a table Monday night where Snyder was dining at the annual NFL owners' meetings. Also there, according to others, were Washington's vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato and Baltimore owner Steve Bischiotti.

Anyway, the source said, Rosenhaus said something about how much Briggs could do for the Redskins and suggested Snyder make a deal for him. Snyder responded by saying the Redskins and Bears should switch first-round positions to gain Briggs.

"It was innocent and meant as a joke," said the source, "but it's taken off."
I hope it was a joke. I hope DS isn't making serious offers without conferring with Gibbs first. I hope DS isn't involved in player acquisition at all.

Glad to hear someone say this was all a bunch of whostruckjohn.
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Hmm, I still don't like the idea of Dan Snyder "joking" at a bar, presumably after a few drinks, about trading first round draft picks for a disgruntled player anxious to play for another team.

For once, it would be nice to read reports of top members of the Redskins front office taking their job seriously.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:35 AM   #41
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I don't think joking around in a social setting should be misconstrued as someone not taking their job seriously.

I don't think Snyder reached his level of success by not taking things seriously.

Lighten up Skins fans, this was a joke from the start and a lot of us bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:40 AM   #42
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Wasn't so much a joke like Danny tried to play a joke on the media or on us or anything, it was more that he made a half-joke to Drew about a trade for Briggs, Drew ran with it, and started up a rumor.

The way the rumor came out, with Glazer from Fox, Schefter from the NFL network, and Pastabelly from ESPN all over the story, it seemed to have legitimacy despite the fact that it made little football sense.

It sounds like a situation where Drew Rosenhaus either misunderstood Snyder's half-joke, or understood his joke perfectly but decided to use Snyder to drive interest in Briggs. Snyder just simply cracked a joke, it wasn't that he wasn't taking his job seriously. He just didn't expect Rosenhaus to run with it, and he certainly didn't expect three major media outlets to buy into it.
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Or maybe since Danny and Drew are so buddy-buddy, maybe Drew asked Danny to help him start up a huge rumor about Briggs just to drive interest for his client. Rosenhaus was likely looking for something to break the Bears' inertia on Briggs.

So maybe Rosenhaus had Danny in on the whole thing, or maybe Rosenhaus took Danny's joke and just ran with it. Either way, this was all Rosenhaus' doing.
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What's the problem with Dan talking at a bar ? Don't these types of deals have to be signed or does the NFL work on a handshake policy now ? He's at a bar, talking shit, that's it. What else is he going to do. Have you ever been at a bar with your friends and played the how much to do her game ? Seriously ? He's an owner of a football team. The man knows that there are contracts that have to be signed, red tape that has to be hammered out. I'm sure he's not going to draw up a contract at a sports bar over a glass of 1738. I mean if you guys owned a football team, I'm sure from time to time you'd talk a little trash, having rich owner fun ! It probably started like this.

Drew : 'Sup Dan ! Whatcha drinkin' ?

Dan : 1738, want one ?

Drew : Sure

Dan : Nothing really, just bored as hell man. Then I got this whole nanny thing and ...

Drew : Yeah I know what you mean.

Dan : Hey don't T.O. me with Sean (Taylor) cause I want to keep him here. You know how many jerseys he sells ?

Drew : Naw I'm not gonna do you like that. You're not like alot of these other guys. Like Chicago ! **** this Briggs thing is killing me. Just give the guy his money. Hell, you guys should take him.....

Dan : Yeah, if Chicago would give us him and their first pick what is it ?

Drew : 31, hold on Dan. Hey Lance,...... LANCE..... let me introduce you to my good buddy Dan Snyder

Lance : Hey

Drew : Okay Lance go back over there..................

Lance : Later guys....

Dan : That's a big guy, how much does he want ?

Drew : You don't want to know

Dan : I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ? ....................... damn

Drew : I know, well I'll see if they'll take your first for him and their 31st okay.

Dan : They won't but, just in case let me know.

Drew : Hell you wouldn't do that, and you've don'e some wild things.

Dan : Not anymore
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Anytime Rosenhaus is involved, I think a very cautious eye should be placed on what is being said.

The guy is notorious for doing whatever it takes to pump up a client's worth.
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