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Old 04-11-2007, 01:31 AM   #151
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

Yeah, well, thats the way the league works.
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:32 AM   #152
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Very good points.

It's April, and nobody appears to want to give him a starting job. We can't promise him the No. 2 job next year. But we can give him a contract that is of the value of a No. 2 guy, and promise him the backup role for the year after.

Of course, there is no guarentee he would take it, but theres no way the Redskins would know that without investigating.

3 years, 3.5 million SB, base salaries of 750,000 (or whatever league min is), 1 mil, and 1.25 mil.

Total value of contract: 6.5 million for 3 years. Carr and Harrington got 6 million each for 2 years so using that as a standard, this is a great deal for us and one he might accept.

His cap number this year would be 1.9 under my proposed deal. We free up 1.2 mil by releasing Collins. So the net cap cost in 2007 to cheaply fill our backup role through 2009 is 0.7 million.

If that's not a good deal, I don't know what is.
This is the whole thing, your whole plan is based on pie in the sky ideals. Please explain again why Rattay would accept that deal you're proposing???
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

I still don't understand what's so appealing about Tim Rattay.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:28 AM   #154
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I still don't understand what's so appealing about Tim Rattay.
I agree 100%. I dont see any reason to bring in Ratay.
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I still don't understand what's so appealing about Tim Rattay.
Because he is probably better ( right now) than our #2 and #3 options.
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I agree with some of my Skin Brethren, Rattay in the burgundy and gold wold suit me just fine. He also has the arm to come in just in case JC falters for some reason. Brunell personally cost us a nice 3 year playoff run with his weak ass arm. In '05 he neutered our run when his arm went limp going into the playoffs. Collins is in the same boat. Rattay would come on fine with learning the offense in my opinion. JC did fine with it last season, why can't Rattay?
Why is Collins in the same boat as Brunell? What makes you think Collins can't play? What makes you so sure? And don't judge him on pre-season while playing with 3rd and 4th stringers.

The fact is we don't know if Collins can, or can't play. All we know is he's got that 700 page playbook down cold.
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Because he is probably better ( right now) than our #2 and #3 options.
I think that's debateable.

Even if he is better, I'd say he's marginally better at best and not worth the trouble.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:47 AM   #158
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

We can put this topic to rest now. Rattay has signed with the Titans
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

I say just promote one of the QB's we'll have off of the practice squad next season (not this coming season) and make him a #3 and move Collins up to #2 (because I'm sure he could probably go another season past Brunell.) You'd have a young guy who will have some time learning the system under his belt. By the time Collins retires, the #3 guy can move up to #2 and so forth and so on. You'd have a young QB (although mostly unproven) to back up Campbell. The biggest thing you need out of a back up is someone who can at least maintain the offense and give your team a chance to be in some games if not win them.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:02 PM   #160
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

Rattay just signed with the Titans.
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I say sign Patrick Ramsey.
Patrick signed with Broncos
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If you watched Todd Collins in last years preseason games you would know that Collins cannot play.
Your right I saw those games last year. For someone who knew AL's system he sucked. Cut Collins. I would rather have Ramsey, Brunell Rattay,or good ole Gus F.
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

i think jordan palmer can be a good #2 given some time to learn the system
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Why are people acting like it's that easy to just switch parts in and out on a football team? Did we learn nothing from this past debacle of a season? You bring in Tim Rattay, he's going to know nothing about our offense. And exactly how is he going to get enough reps to learn anything over the next season or so when we're concentrating on giving almost all the reps to Campbell?

Collins is not talented. But he is cheap, and he knows how to operate the offense. Rattay will cost more, and would take time to train.

Plus, who says Rattay wants to be a back-up QB on a team with a young starter. It could be he's still on the market because he does not want to be a back-up. I certainly could imagine him wanting to be a starting QB for some team. With our current QB situation, it's not likely he would even be considered.
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

How the hell does a thread about Tim Rattay go on for 11 pages?
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