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Old 04-10-2007, 02:40 PM   #46
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Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season!

I'm no lawyer, but in a lot of ways, the law has "common sense" and "sound judgment" written into it.

For example, when it comes to determining if you were assaulted, one of the conditions for the charge is that "a reasonable person" would feel threatened by another's actions.

Or on self-defense, if "a reasonable person" would feel his life was in danger, he could use lethal force to defend himself.

Nobody is going to quarrell with this suspension, because it just feels reasonable to 95% of the population. You get in this much trouble, you get spanked. And spanked hard.
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:41 PM   #47
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I say that the union agrees with this decision and does nothing. If they fight the issue it will be interesting to see how they defend a guy with this type of record. It won't happen!
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I'm no lawyer, but in a lot of ways, the law has "common sense" and "sound judgment" written into it.
Totally agree. Not to threadjack, but a lot of people who criticize X, Y, or Z aspect of the legal system generally don't understand that there is a common-sense reason why the system is the way it is.
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:52 PM   #49
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:04 PM   #50
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Totally agree. Not to threadjack, but a lot of people who criticize X, Y, or Z aspect of the legal system generally don't understand that there is a common-sense reason why the system is the way it is.
i really disagree. i think this is why our legal system is such a mess. if someone kills someone, throws the gun on the floor of their car, and gets pulled over for speeding, does the officer have probable cause to pick up the gun? this should be common sense, but alot of times its inadmissible in court
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:13 PM   #51
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Totally agree. Not to threadjack, but a lot of people who criticize X, Y, or Z aspect of the legal system generally don't understand that there is a common-sense reason why the system is the way it is.
Like the laws against Marijuana?

I'm struggling to find any common sense there.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:16 PM   #52
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Like the laws against Marijuana?

I'm struggling to find any common sense there.
I'll second that

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Old 04-10-2007, 03:19 PM   #53
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:22 PM   #54
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James thrash is one of the players sitting on the board working with the Comish on these issues. I don't think any of the six had anything to do with this but just read he was on the board.
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I'll second that

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Damn, your startin to look like Pacman? Maybe you need a little suspension?? 1 YEAR?????

Got kids? Thats a no brainer.
I hope we aren't going to debate what's legal and what's not?
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Damn, your startin to look like Pacman? Maybe you need a little suspension?? 1 YEAR?????

Got kids? Thats a no brainer.
I hope we aren't going to debate what's legal and what's not?
no worse than booze, only difference is one is legal and one isn't.
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Like the laws against Marijuana?

I'm struggling to find any common sense there.
He didn't say ALL laws.
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I'll agree that marijuana laws are kinda dumb to me, but the fact is that they represent community standards. They can be repealed as soon as enough people apply pressure to their state legislatures to do so. Moreover, the penalties for possession of marijuana are really light and typically involve paying a relatively small fine. Almost no one does "time" for simple possession.

Dmek, with regard to the suppression of evidence, the law is pretty fair and evidence usually will not be suppressed without a damn good reason. In your hypo, the gun would be admissible in any jurisdiction with which I'm familiar.

I'm no legal scholar, but my limited experience with the law has led me to believe that it's getting a bad rap. Matty, you probably feel the same way about the insurance industry.
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no worse than booze, only difference is one is legal and one isn't.

Right Pacman, I mean Mat, they both make your smarter to I'm quite sure.......LOL

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Old 04-10-2007, 03:45 PM   #60
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I'm not going to try to defend anything Pacman Jones has done. However, I think his conduct is an indictment of the way young athletes are treated throughout their lives. Pacman's problems are not new...he was getting into trouble at WVU. Everyone knew it then, he has a problem. He can't stay outta trouble. No one ever did anything about it at West Virginia, all they did was enable him. All so they could make their millions of dollars by exploiting their players, but that's another topic. Pacman had trouble with the law at WVU and everyone around the university did everything they could to keep him on the field so they could make money. All he's ever learned is that as long as he performs on the field, his problems will go away off of it. As much as he made his own decisions, I feel sorry for a lot of the kids who grow up without the advantages most of the people judging them have enjoyed. Especially since, if they didn't have a father, the only males they really see are their coaches and they're too busy trying to figure out how to keep him on the field, rather than out of trouble. It's a little disturbing. I'm not condoning any of Pacman's actions, but I think there's a problem with this society, just as much as with him.

Another thought, Henry and Jones were both disciplinary problems in college. They also went to the same college, West Virginia. Why isn't Rich Rodriguez held accountable in any way? He did nothing about this when they were there. Where the hell was he? He just made sure they kept making the university money by taking them to a bowl game, it's bullshit.

Somehow, I don't think taking a troubled kid and making him a millionaire is the best way to solve people's problems. People should have seen this coming. I feel sorry for Pacman Jones.
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