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Old 04-14-2007, 05:14 AM   #61
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I hope we think again and again. I don't want another overpaid player...
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Old 04-14-2007, 05:17 PM   #62
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Sounds good to me. We need to have three solid DBs. Right now we have 2, and Springs aint one of them! Trade away if it were to go down like that, but I would pass on the deal if they want more from us. HAIL
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:32 PM   #63
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Sounds good to me. We need to have three solid DBs. Right now we have 2, and Springs aint one of them! Trade away if it were to go down like that, but I would pass on the deal if they want more from us. HAIL
When healthy Springs is a shut down corner. One of the best in the league. INT's are nice but not everything. A healthy Springs doesn't get the ball thrown in his direction at all. And as far as i am concerned we have 4 quality corners that have starting experience. Nuff said.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:41 PM   #64
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springs is no longer a shut down corner and they do throw his direction.hes getting old and slower too.we only have 2 quality corners.macklin is depth,and ade jimoh blows.i dont see why we even resigned him.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:22 PM   #65
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springs is no longer a shut down corner and they do throw his direction.hes getting old and slower too.we only have 2 quality corners.macklin is depth,and ade jimoh blows.i dont see why we even resigned him.
We resigned Jimoh for depth at CB as well as his special teams contributions. He's one of our best special teamers.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:16 AM   #66
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springs is no longer a shut down corner and they do throw his direction.hes getting old and slower too.we only have 2 quality corners.macklin is depth,and ade jimoh blows.i dont see why we even resigned him.
Jimoh is a solid re-sign, where have you been.

He is great on teams and provides depth at corner. Well deserved.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:15 PM   #67
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Sean Springs is terrible and lost a FEW steps. Carlos Rogers still has NOT shown me that he is even in the same league with guys like Champ and Mr.Green! Macklin WHO? Thank god for the ruturn of Smoot!!! We need a shut down corner like Asante Samuels. Let Smoot and Samuels teach Rogers how to shut down the passing game!

P.S. Send Springs down the road before he is worth nothing.
Before you send Smoot to the HOF just remember he got benched in Minn. and they were the worst pass defense in the NFL.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:18 PM   #68
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When healthy Springs is a shut down corner. One of the best in the league. INT's are nice but not everything. A healthy Springs doesn't get the ball thrown in his direction at all. And as far as i am concerned we have 4 quality corners that have starting experience. Nuff said.
I think we can get by w/ Springs but he is not shut down corner. Problem last year is he gets hurt and can't run or train. So then he comes back and is not as effective. But it looks like he is not going to take a pay cut so he's outta here come June.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:36 PM   #69
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Springs is our best corner. He's a very physical cb who was dinged up last year. 2 years ago when we made the playoffs he was playing at a pro bowl level. If he can stay healty he's one of our best defenders.

Not interested in Samuel. Want picks for the 6th pick or Okoye/Landry.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:51 PM   #70
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Springs was our best corner. He really lost alot after all the injuries last year. He had something like 3 surgeries. We should move on as a team and definately don't need to pay him 7.5 mil this year. That is what is really absurde about the whole Springs situation, he won't take a pay cutt. Why does he think he deserve to eat up 8% of our for this year? He's not as good as he was when we signed him to his deal and if wants to help our team win give up some of that money. Stick around for another year and do it.

Just my opinion though. Oh and by the way I would rather have the Pats 2 first rounders than Asante Samuel.
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:41 PM   #71
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we shouldn't risk giving up shawn springs in a trade because carlos rogers tends to get hurt and we will have much more depth by keeping springs, not to mention, springs has been one our best defensive players, and rogers is to unexperienced to be depended on.

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Old 04-16-2007, 02:34 AM   #72
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This trade possibility intrigues me, rogers and smoot are no better than 2 corners, macklin was a 3 or 4 in a bad d, and im basically assuming that springs will be hurt the entire season, and because of spring's brittle body, i think that we should get rid of him, and we might as well get something for him. Good defenses need good corners, so I think that Asante would be a good pickup (assuming we pay him for his value, not how much we normally overpay), and id take Asante and a 24 pick over the 6 pick, the 6 pick is unproven and gets a crapload of money while Asante is proven and the 24 pick doesnt get that much money.
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:47 AM   #73
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springs is no longer a shut down corner and they do throw his direction.hes getting old and slower too.we only have 2 quality corners.macklin is depth,and ade jimoh blows.i dont see why we even resigned him.
You should watch what you are saying. Speaking about Ade that way won't win you many points around here.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:32 AM   #74
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Sounds like it's bvd420 vs. the world! ;-)

Springs usually plays in 12-15 games/year. Last year some idiot doctor couldn't figure out that his groin needed "fixing" until just before the season. So he needs to recover during the season and has to go in before he's gotten his body back up to full strength. Strangely, he got injured and missed more time. As we all know, the defense as a whole played terribly, but had a couple of very good games. And miraculously, they occurred when Springs, that terrible CB, was playing. In my view the scenario is as follows:
Springs out: terrible defense
Springs in (and the other players in sync with him): respectable defense.

By my estimation, Springs is the player they can least afford to lose.

Let's see what happens this year.
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