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Old 07-19-2004, 02:16 AM   #16
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Well I think our bigger concern is that he has yet to sign with an agent, unless he has and we just don't know it.

No other early picks have signed yet although I hear that Gallery might be signing this week so other contracts might start to fall into place soon after that.
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Old 07-19-2004, 02:23 AM   #17
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Just so you guys know, in all the discussion we had prior to the draft, I never once said anythign about Taylors off the field intelligence. If anything KWII is a smarter person. But on the field is what counts, so hopefully we just get him on the field and hope that during his LONG career as a skin he only gets fines and not suspensions.
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:44 AM   #18
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About the Wonderlic?

Drafting S. Taylor is not all about his Wonderlic score.

That score, as has been stated, is just one indicator as to a player's capabilities. It would be interesting to see some sample questions from the Wonderlic Test given to all potential NFL entrants.

Maturity is strange. In looking at my SATs from 34 years ago, I never thought I would be where I'm at today. People grow into their capabilities. Players play up to theirs!

S. Taylor's job is not all about what he does on a test. It is about what he does on the FB field. He will be fine. We will know how he will do after a couple of PS games. I've said he will hold out 1-2 weeks, but that doesn't mean I'm worried. That is the nature of the business side of the NFL. Every year there are holdouts, until players, and the teams that drafted them in the first few rounds figure out their "slotted" position, and what their salary should be.
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Old 07-19-2004, 09:07 AM   #19
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I think he has had a run of bad luck, and that this all is a little blown out of proportion. I do admit I am nervous, but we got to wait and see what he can do on the field before we pass judgment.
I don't think his follies thusfar can be attributed to "bad luck", maybe bad decisions, but not bad luck.. Luck is something you can't control.. Firing your agent and not picking one yet (WTF?), putting yourself in position to get evicted and having to leave a league mandated meeting, those are results of decisions.. Here's a possible thought (one that I hope isn't true of course), maybe he's one of those people who are great at something, but don't particularly like doing it.. He may be overwhelmed at, geez, this is what I am going to be doing for the next 8-12 years and he's hesitant at diving in.. All that said, I'm ready to give him a clean slate when he gets to camp and starts hitting, but he needs to get on point quickly..
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:56 AM   #20
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Taylor's problems seem to be more life skills than football or anything the Wonderlic was even designed to detect. Who knows where this guy's head is, but I thought he was excited to be a Redskin. I know he didn't campaign for us like K2, but I think the biggest thrill for most of these guys is to be in the NFL.

I also don't remember him missing too many of the voluntary sessions or hearing about anything like that, but I wasn't there so who knows. I do remember him not complaining about his number, switching to 36 and preferring to take Ohalete's job instead of his number.

I think all of this is much ado about nothing. If the kid wants to play in the NFL, then he'll sign with an agent and get his butt in camp. I mean how hard is it, you sign with an agent and then collect your 12-14 million dollar signing bonus. I don't know what he's doing, maybe we should send Skinsncanes down there to find out what is really going on with the kid. I want to see him in camp because I think he will really upgrade our defense and the more time he misses then the less impact he'll make this year.
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Old 07-19-2004, 11:23 AM   #21
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To much is being read into S. Taylor's reaction after his selection in the draft. You can attribute it to his not being picked first. After all he was rated as the the 1st or 2nd best pure athlete in the draft. There were rumors he might go higher. It is usually not a good idea to try and guess what another person is thinking. You usually will guess wrong.
I know there is not much football news to talk about at this time of year and some are getting nervous about S. Taylor. However it is still way to early to regret drafting him. I realize S. Taylor does not have an agent, but I never understood why all NFL teams and players wait so long to start negotiations on rookie contracts? The draft is in May. Why wait until July to get them signed? Then blame the player in the media for any holdouts.
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Old 07-19-2004, 04:32 PM   #22
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Wonderlic

Here's a sample of the wonderlic. Keep in mind players are timed on this test and it is a little confusing if you don't pay attention to it. Not hard, just confusing
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Old 07-19-2004, 04:49 PM   #23
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And I'm pretty sure they give the test after a full day of physical workouts and tests so you're totally drained by the time you take the Wonderlic test
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Old 07-19-2004, 05:14 PM   #24
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feels like an IQ test more than SATs.
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:05 PM   #25
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It IS a subtitute for the old - and longer to administer - IQ tests. I tried to draw an analogy to the SATs because the SATs also try to measure future human performance (in college) the way the Wonderlic tries to measure future human performance in learning "stuff" only some of which is "book learning". Neither test is 100% reliable. Neither one is 0% reliable.

The designers of the Wonderlic test claim that it measures the testee's ability to learn things and learn them quickly and to "put 2 and 2 together" in life situations. Many - if not most - of the companies that hire security guards use the test for their applicants because they want people who can react to strange situations in a reasoned manner and not just draw weapons and fire.

The fact that Taylor scored very low on the test MIGHT mean that he has not yet been able to figure out the importance of getting a contract done on sone kind of schedule that will allow him to get into camp. He MIGHT not know he can't go to camp without one. He MIGHT be thinking that missing a week or so of camp is a good idea because it gives him a week more of "vacation" and he'll be the starter anyway because he always has been the starter and the redskins drafted him in the first round. He MIGHT think that missing an NFL required course is like skipping a "required" course at Miami. Do you think he ever got any serious discipline if he cut a class there?

MAYBE his "immaturity" and "lack of focus" is due to his lack of ability to grasp what is happening around him because he does not have a professional advisor in these matters.

Or maybe he is just immature and unfocused...

Time will tell.
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Old 07-19-2004, 07:54 PM   #26
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he's from Miami, what did you expect?
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:45 AM   #27
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Still no agent and camp is coming up fast. What is going on in this guys' head? I'd really love to know.

Does he not want to get paid?

Does he not want to play?

WTF pick an agent already. And we thought negotiations with KWII were going to be a problem, at least he has an agent.
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:10 AM   #28
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Has anyone considered that maybe he has a mental illness? Seriously! I'm not trying to be insulting; mental illness is as much a disease as a heart attack or a stroke. Without rehashing everything you all have already mentioned that he has done (or hasn't done), and adding the fact that he isn't talking to the media about any kind of complaint with the Redskins or an agent, I have to wonder if he's so scared that he can't make a decision.
That's actually the most charitable explanation I can come up with. When the poll first came out, I voted that he'd be a lengthy holdout. I hope I'm wrong, but it's looking more and more like it.
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:17 AM   #29
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If he has a mental illness I'd like to think that was something that would have been discovered long before we used the #5 overall pick on him.
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:33 AM   #30
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Like I said, that's the most charitable explanation I can come up with. It wouldn't be very ladylike of me to say what I REALLY think of his actions, or inactions.
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