Wynn restructures

MTK · 04-29-2007, 11:20 AM

What better option do we have right now?? He's not starter material anymore but in a rotation he's a quality veteran backup.

Jamaican'Skin · 04-29-2007, 11:21 AM

So Im assuming this move means we're going after someone after June 1 cuts, or are we just freeing up space for rookie signings?

Daseal · 04-29-2007, 11:23 AM

The defensive line in Williams' scheme often isn't used to pressure the QB. Their job is to eat up blocks and work vs the run. That keeps our linebackers and safeties free to make plays, rush the QB, and play the run. Our defensive line 'needs' have been over inflated on this site. Williams puts his corners on islands and uses everyone else on the field to create pressure.

MTK · 04-29-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

The defensive line in Williams' scheme often isn't used to pressure the QB. Their job is to eat up blocks and work vs the run. That keeps our linebackers and safeties free to make plays, rush the QB, and play the run. Our defensive line 'needs' have been over inflated on this site. Williams puts his corners on islands and uses everyone else on the field to create pressure.

I agree. As I said in another thread I think a lot of us got too focused on the defensive line and forgot that our secondary was pretty piss poor last year too. Landry will hopefully be what we thought AA was going to be. An in the box safety that will be stout against the run and will also be a serious blitz threat.

JWsleep · 04-29-2007, 12:39 PM

About having a plan: the plan is pick up the pieces. There wasn't a good enough DLman at 6, and no good trade down offer. So they pick up AA's replacement (obviously a position that Williams thinks is crucial to his style of D), resign Wynn for a paycut (the only way he stays around, even with his vaunted leadership skills), and then we see what there is in the late rounds and in late FA. And then we make do. I see no other options for even the most gifted of GMs here on the warpath, given that we've traded away all our picks this year, and blown it with AA and LLoyd (verdict is still out on ARE, Rocky, and JC, though I remain optimistic).

When you've handcuffed yourself, there's not a lot you can do. But now that we're here, resigning Wynn with a paycut is fine. But it obviously is only a thin and used bandaid for our D line troubles...

jsarno · 04-29-2007, 02:55 PM

How much cap money does this save us?

Skinny Tee · 04-29-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

wynn is a good guy to have in the locker room, and he has never in his career been a dynamic pass rusher so if ur gonna pull up stats showing a lack of sacks you arent showing anyone anything new. he didnt even start last year so yet again showing last year's stats does little. every team needs depth, and we now have cheaper depth at DE and keep that leadership

If we need him in the locker room so bad why don't we just hire him as a DE assistant coach.

What do the Redskins need more of on defensive line? Motivation or Sacks...I choose the latter.

GMScud · 04-29-2007, 03:52 PM

"Hey, we need help at DE." "I think the DL will be just fine." What? Sigh... make up your mind Joe.

It is so obvious what our most glaring need is, and we just flat out ignore it. I'm sure you'll hear other FO types around the league, under condition of anonymity, ripping us yet again. What are we thinking?? I'm optimistic about every position on our team except this stupid DL.

skinsguy · 04-29-2007, 04:43 PM

Didn't this save us more money than if we had just out right cut Wynn?

jsarno · 04-29-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

"Hey, we need help at DE." "I think the DL will be just fine." What? Sigh... make up your mind Joe.

It is so obvious what our most glaring need is, and we just flat out ignore it. I'm sure you'll hear other FO types around the league, under condition of anonymity, ripping us yet again. What are we thinking?? I'm optimistic about every position on our team except this stupid DL.

You know I am right there with you concerning the DL...but after some of these moves, I really feel they know something we don't. We are creating room to sign someone...so while I am upset that I didn't get the guy we wanted, we very well could get a sud after June 1st to be our DE. We better anyway, otherwise our DL is one of the worst in the league.

Rajmahal33 · 04-29-2007, 04:51 PM

I guess we going to keep him around for a little longer which is great. But why the hell did we say we were going to address the D-line via draft. There is no need to mislead ppl for Day 2 picks, they are not exactly in demand.

rypper11 · 04-29-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree. As I said in another thread I think a lot of us got too focused on the defensive line and forgot that our secondary was pretty piss poor last year too. Landry will hopefully be what we thought AA was going to be. An in the box safety that will be stout against the run and will also be a serious blitz threat.

If Landry can man cover a slot receiver while Smoot and Rogers take the outside and Taylor gets the TE, we can blitz 7. GW will bring pressure every play increasing the TO chances.

rvd420 · 04-29-2007, 05:21 PM

wynn is washed up and old.i say cut him,salevea and daniels.we nedd young players.

Dirtbag59 · 04-29-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I find it interesting that in feb. Gibbs said we needed DE help, now he gave the DL a vote of confidence. That doesn't make sense.

I love the guy but Gibbs is a liar when it comes to the press. I'm always reminded of a quote between him and Patrick Ramsey when he said something to the effect of "Patrick you and I are going to be together for a long time."

BeastsoftheNFCeast · 04-29-2007, 09:07 PM

can someone please answer why he did this. He lost ALOT of money by doing this. If he got cut he would have gotten almost 2 mil more than accepting the contract restructuring he did. Im thinking there is more to the contract that we dont know about, like with the Brunell contract restructuring how his old contract was still sort of in place.

04-29-2007, 11:20 AM	#16
MTK ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 90,216	Re: Wynn restructures What better option do we have right now?? He's not starter material anymore but in a rotation he's a quality veteran backup. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-29-2007, 11:21 AM	#17
Jamaican'Skin King of the Cage Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 31 Posts: 2,411	Re: Wynn restructures So Im assuming this move means we're going after someone after June 1 cuts, or are we just freeing up space for rookie signings? __________________ Back like a spinal tap

04-29-2007, 11:23 AM	#18
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 8,319	Re: Wynn restructures The defensive line in Williams' scheme often isn't used to pressure the QB. Their job is to eat up blocks and work vs the run. That keeps our linebackers and safeties free to make plays, rush the QB, and play the run. Our defensive line 'needs' have been over inflated on this site. Williams puts his corners on islands and uses everyone else on the field to create pressure. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-29-2007, 12:39 PM	#20
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 49 Posts: 4,681	Re: Wynn restructures About having a plan: the plan is pick up the pieces. There wasn't a good enough DLman at 6, and no good trade down offer. So they pick up AA's replacement (obviously a position that Williams thinks is crucial to his style of D), resign Wynn for a paycut (the only way he stays around, even with his vaunted leadership skills), and then we see what there is in the late rounds and in late FA. And then we make do. I see no other options for even the most gifted of GMs here on the warpath, given that we've traded away all our picks this year, and blown it with AA and LLoyd (verdict is still out on ARE, Rocky, and JC, though I remain optimistic). When you've handcuffed yourself, there's not a lot you can do. But now that we're here, resigning Wynn with a paycut is fine. But it obviously is only a thin and used bandaid for our D line troubles... __________________ Hail from Houston!

04-29-2007, 02:55 PM	#21
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 43 Posts: 9,534	Re: Wynn restructures How much cap money does this save us? __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

04-29-2007, 03:52 PM	#23
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Wynn restructures "Hey, we need help at DE." "I think the DL will be just fine." What? Sigh... make up your mind Joe. It is so obvious what our most glaring need is, and we just flat out ignore it. I'm sure you'll hear other FO types around the league, under condition of anonymity, ripping us yet again. What are we thinking?? I'm optimistic about every position on our team except this stupid DL. __________________ Tardy

04-29-2007, 04:43 PM	#24
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Wynn restructures Didn't this save us more money than if we had just out right cut Wynn? __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

04-29-2007, 04:51 PM	#26
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: Wynn restructures I guess we going to keep him around for a little longer which is great. But why the hell did we say we were going to address the D-line via draft. There is no need to mislead ppl for Day 2 picks, they are not exactly in demand. __________________ McNasty FTW!

04-29-2007, 05:21 PM	#28
rvd420 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227	Re: Wynn restructures wynn is washed up and old.i say cut him,salevea and daniels.we nedd young players.

04-29-2007, 09:07 PM	#30
BeastsoftheNFCeast Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 331	Re: Wynn restructures can someone please answer why he did this. He lost ALOT of money by doing this. If he got cut he would have gotten almost 2 mil more than accepting the contract restructuring he did. Im thinking there is more to the contract that we dont know about, like with the Brunell contract restructuring how his old contract was still sort of in place.

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