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Old 05-01-2007, 03:20 PM   #46
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The Patriots will be....excuse me.....are stacked. They added Thomas, a beast and will create mayhem in that defense. then they add two receivers who can make plays down field, along with the guys they had when they were a couple of plays from probably a 4th superbowl. I hate the Pats, but they are the team to beat right now. Randy Moss will be the Moss he was 5 years ago in Minnesota. Brady and Bilichek(spelling??) will have him playing at his best, and he will be dominant again. Plus Maroney being full time, I dont know how they wouldn't be the favorites to go all the way
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:23 PM   #47
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You obviously did not read points 1-4
you will eat your words manusky

In addition, at no point did I ever say that the Patriots are not going to be a good team next year. All I'm saying is that I hate how they're always hyped up, and these are my "weak at best" reasons as to why I believe so. But we'll see what happens.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:27 PM   #48
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you will eat your words manusky
I hope so, because I'm sick of the Pats always being good. I'd also like to have more fun when I go to the game at Foxboro this year.
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i see know other team in the afc north posing a serious threat to the patriots.

they remain the only team in that division wth the luxury of absolute security at the qb position (pennington is an arguable exception but let's see 2 consecutive injury free seasons 1st).

the dolphins are undertaking yet another regime change. who knows who they'll really have under center this season. and that defense aint gettin any younger. i don't see them being any better than last year.

the bills should show improvement. they've had a good offseason thus far. their success depends heavily on the development of losman which is sketchy. marshawn lynch should be a big help.

IMO the 2nd best team is the jets. with an upright and able bodied pennington they could definitely push for a wild card spot. they also will need thomas jones to pan out. who knows what will happen there...
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i see know other team in the afc north posing a serious threat to the patriots.

they remain the only team in that division wth the luxury of absolute security at the qb position (pennington is an arguable exception but let's see 2 consecutive injury free seasons 1st).

the dolphins are undertaking yet another regime change. who knows who they'll really have under center this season. and that defense aint gettin any younger. i don't see them being any better than last year.

the bills should show improvement. they've had a good offseason thus far. their success depends heavily on the development of losman which is sketchy. marshawn lynch should be a big help.

IMO the 2nd best team is the jets. with an upright and able bodied pennington they could definitely push for a wild card spot. they also will need thomas jones to pan out. who knows what will happen there...
Offensively maybe, but they also lost their best CB and LBs in Fletcher and Spikes.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:35 PM   #51
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Since when did the Pats, Dolphins, Bills, and Jets join the AFC North?
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Since when did the Pats, Dolphins, Bills, and Jets join the AFC North?
east.. u know what i mean dude.


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Offensively maybe, but they also lost their best CB and LBs in Fletcher and Spikes.
valid point. i was tryin not to get TOO in depth in my 1st ever post lol
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AH! LOL I didn't realize. Welcome!
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tom brady makes all of them better. tom brady is the reason that they will go to the superbowl
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Yeah, 7th in the NFL in passing yards isn't very good considering his targets...yes, I'd say he was ripping it up.
What Brady did last year was simply amazing if you ask me. Who is more valuable to their team other than Manning? NE takes away his two starting wr's and brings in cast offs. Plus Chad Jackson didn't do anything. So all the guy does is throw for 24td's 12ints and 3500yards. I remember the Mon, night game where he just put on a passing clinic against Minnesota's defense. The guy is simply a great quarterback.
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7th=ripping it up?

I thought you were in the "Brunell isn't getting it done" corner because top 10-12 wasn't good enough. Brady was better than 10-12 (at least by pass yardage), but if 7th is ripping it up, and 9th or 12th or whatever Brunell was when he got benched isn't, where's the line?

I thought Brady had a sub par year by his ohttp://www.thewarpath.net/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=305525
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Caldwell and Gaffney suck. They're not good football players, that's why they were available. Given his targets, 7th in the league is ripping it up. And the difference wasn't the passing yardage, it was wins and losses with Brunell. Last time I checked, that wasn't much of a problem for the New England Patriots last season. And 1789 in 9 games with 8 td's isn't in the same realm as 2052 with 15 touchdowns. Especially not when Mark Brunell had a top 5 wide out and a top 10 TE and that doesn't even mention Randle El or Lloyd (both of whom were better than everyone on the Pats last season).

So yeah, Brunell wasn't playing well enough, but Tom was. I'd agree he had a down year, but I'm saying that all things considered, Tom had a pretty good season. Take away anybody's top 4 targets and then have him go out and have a good season, show me someone who could.
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What Brady did last year was simply amazing if you ask me. Who is more valuable to their team other than Manning? NE takes away his two starting wr's and brings in cast offs. Plus Chad Jackson didn't do anything. So all the guy does is throw for 24td's 12ints and 3500yards. I remember the Mon, night game where he just put on a passing clinic against Minnesota's defense. The guy is simply a great quarterback.
That's the point I'm trying to make. And I think he's more valuable than Peyton. Take away Manning's 4 favorite targets over one offseason and then show me how successful he is.
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God willing, the Patriots won't make the SB this season. Just because they stocked up on talent doesn't mean squat. Just look at us and the Danny's history of trying to buy a SB. Tired of the Patriots to be honest and any game they are in is a nice tight battle usually, but very boring in the process as the last several SBs have been sloppy and the refs have taken over the game too often. I miss the Redskins, 49ers, Cowboy ass kickings in the 80's and 90's to be honest. At least you saw one team display excellence.
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Caldwell and Gaffney suck. They're not good football players, that's why they were available. Given his targets, 7th in the league is ripping it up. And the difference wasn't the passing yardage, it was wins and losses with Brunell. Last time I checked, that wasn't much of a problem for the New England Patriots last season. And 1789 in 9 games with 8 td's isn't in the same realm as 2052 with 15 touchdowns. Especially not when Mark Brunell had a top 5 wide out and a top 10 TE and that doesn't even mention Randle El or Lloyd (both of whom were better than everyone on the Pats last season).

So yeah, Brunell wasn't playing well enough, but Tom was. I'd agree he had a down year, but I'm saying that all things considered, Tom had a pretty good season. Take away anybody's top 4 targets and then have him go out and have a good season, show me someone who could.
No need to even compare the two at this point. They are not even in the same ballpark. Yes we all know Brunell was a top ten passer. But when it's 3rd & 8 and you complete a 6 yard pass it doesn't do shit as far as helping the team win. It doesn't keep drives alive. Yes, it looks good in the stat sheet but that's about it.

I mean at one point the guy had Jabbar Gaffney, Doug Gabriel, Troy Brown and Caldwell. And they were one first down from making the SB. Yes they got some breaks in the SD game but let's give credit where credit is due. If firmly believe that good teams make find a way to get breaks. You don't win 3 SB's by being lucky all the time.
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