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Old 05-06-2007, 01:51 PM   #16
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What Smooty said.

Taylor's contract was crap from the begining and the cap has gone up significantly. If he signed a contract like Taylo'rs the NFLPA might shoot his agent. Players in the 14-18 will be getting contracts like Taylor's. Landry's will be higher.

The Skins need to get moving on the Cooley deal and once that is done get Taylor re-upped. Pay him well. Over pay him a bit to keep him off the market. The last thing on Earth we need is Sean Taylor playing against us. That scares me.
We have Taylor under contract through 2010.

After that, he will be 28 years old and on the downside of his career. We'd be smart to let him test the market at that point.

Cooley needs to be locked up now. Use the extra cap space we have and give him a 2 million roster bonus that allows us to skimp on the signing bonus. Cooley has skills that aren't replaceable. TEs with great hands who excel after the catch are very valuable and only come around every few years.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:22 PM   #17
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Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?

I don't know about that one. ST was robbed. Good for the 'Skins though.
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We have Taylor under contract through 2010.

After that, he will be 28 years old and on the downside of his career. We'd be smart to let him test the market at that point.

Cooley needs to be locked up now. Use the extra cap space we have and give him a 2 million roster bonus that allows us to skimp on the signing bonus. Cooley has skills that aren't replaceable. TEs with great hands who excel after the catch are very valuable and only come around every few years.

how does being 28 automatically put you in the downside of your career that is asanince thinking. All of them portis cooley moss taylor landry randle el all should retire as redskins come on tripp what are you talking about
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:32 AM   #19
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Re: Would this be a good idea for Landry?

Yea thats ridiculous to say someones career is done by 28. Especially someone as talented as sean taylor.
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how does being 28 automatically put you in the downside of your career that is asanince thinking. All of them portis cooley moss taylor landry randle el all should retire as redskins come on tripp what are you talking about
Well, fact, 28 is the average age of an NFL player. So assuming that half are on one side of their prime, half on the other, my statement makes logical sense.

This is a far cry from saying that he would be a useless player. He would actually still be in his prime. But thats the crazy thing about second contracts, is that they tend to be very expensive. You don't want to be handing out an expensive contract to a safety who won't be improving. That's not assinine, thats common sense.

The Franchise Tag may be a reasonable option if we want to keep him in town for 2011. You want to make him prove to you that he can keep playing.

Theoretically, Taylor is still improving now, and his contract is great value for the next 4 seasons. We have Landry in the wings, so we aren't committed to the guy, which is a very good thing. Let him play out his contract here. If we have a ton of cap room in 2011, let him set his market value and then go pay it.

You NEVER extend a contract for a guy who has 3+ years left on it. Everybody knows that. Too much can go wrong injury-wise.
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might be the average age doesnt mean on the downside remember tiki didnt hit prime to about 28 and barry sanders was in his prime at 31 when he left and peyton is still there so i dont see what youre getting at and marvin harison and tory holt as well
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pay attention. he said the average career. who knows what category sean taylor will fall under at age 28. he is only clumping him in with the rest of the league.
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To answer the original question: NO
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might be the average age doesnt mean on the downside remember tiki didnt hit prime to about 28 and barry sanders was in his prime at 31 when he left and peyton is still there so i dont see what youre getting at and marvin harison and tory holt as well
Well, players like Tiki exist, but that makes him the exception, not the rule.

Peyton's a bad example because QBs tend to peak later than the rest of the positions.

Holt and Harrison and Sanders probably maxed out at age 28. Look, I'm not trying to say they were worthless players at age 28 (Barry Sanders was still playing at a HOF level when he retired), far, far from it. Heck, I was the biggest advocate for bringing Fletcher in here and he's going to be 32.

But when you give the big bucks to somebody who is 28 and coming off their rookie deal, you can't make the argument that you are "paying for potential" because in theory, the guy's as good as hes ever going to be (QBs the exception).

NFL contracts escilate on the back end, so if we were to sign a 28 year old Taylor to a 6 year deal, he'd be 32 and making more money in the 4th year of his deal than at any year in his career prior to that. What happens when Sean doesn't have elite physical skills anymore (30-31)? What is the strength of his game once his athleticism becomes pedestrian?
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Well, players like Tiki exist, but that makes him the exception, not the rule.

Peyton's a bad example because QBs tend to peak later than the rest of the positions.

Holt and Harrison and Sanders probably maxed out at age 28. Look, I'm not trying to say they were worthless players at age 28 (Barry Sanders was still playing at a HOF level when he retired), far, far from it. Heck, I was the biggest advocate for bringing Fletcher in here and he's going to be 32.

But when you give the big bucks to somebody who is 28 and coming off their rookie deal, you can't make the argument that you are "paying for potential" because in theory, the guy's as good as hes ever going to be (QBs the exception).

NFL contracts escilate on the back end, so if we were to sign a 28 year old Taylor to a 6 year deal, he'd be 32 and making more money in the 4th year of his deal than at any year in his career prior to that. What happens when Sean doesn't have elite physical skills anymore (30-31)? What is the strength of his game once his athleticism becomes pedestrian?

i know that you said the average career but to me "prime" cant be put in an age group cause everyone peaks at different times and for Dmek you always seem to be right there on me telling me what i have missed (even though i didnt miss it this time) i love you dmek
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I don't know about that one. ST was robbed. Good for the 'Skins though.
How is that good for the Skins? It just means a future problem in the locker room is lurking.

They would be smart to extend him.
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i know that you said the average career but to me "prime" cant be put in an age group cause everyone peaks at different times and for Dmek you always seem to be right there on me telling me what i have missed (even though i didnt miss it this time) i love you dmek
You're right. 28 is a rough estimate.

It's impossible to tell when a guy is going to have his best year. Even after he retires, you still don't really know when his best year was. But for a majority of players, I would say that their peak year falls somewhere between 27-29, and more than half at 28.

It's one of the reasons that Okoye was so intriguing. You have a player who will continue to improve physically for up to 10 years before even beginning to lose his physical skills. And he had the maximum amount of college experience to boot.
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You're right. 28 is a rough estimate.

It's impossible to tell when a guy is going to have his best year. Even after he retires, you still don't really know when his best year was. But for a majority of players, I would say that their peak year falls somewhere between 27-29, and more than half at 28.

It's one of the reasons that Okoye was so intriguing. You have a player who will continue to improve physically for up to 10 years before even beginning to lose his physical skills. And he had the maximum amount of college experience to boot.

but landry could have the same kind of dominance
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but landry could have the same kind of dominance
He's got everything you look for in a safety prospect, but an Amobi Okoye situation may never happen again. There will be other elite safety prospects in the future, believe me.
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He's got everything you look for in a safety prospect, but an Amobi Okoye situation may never happen again. There will be other elite safety prospects in the future, believe me.

true but there will be great dt prospects too that is the key word there
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