Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler

4mrusmc · 06-07-2007, 08:20 PM

I just feel that we have more pressing needs on D-line, not at an already stocked secondary. If anybody was paying attention, we were'nt really lighting up the sack totals and run stops last year.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-07-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

I just feel that we have more pressing needs on D-line, not at an already stocked secondary. If anybody was paying attention, we were'nt really lighting up the sack totals and run stops last year.

yeah but that has nothing to do with cars

SmootSmack · 06-07-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

I just feel that we have more pressing needs on D-line, not at an already stocked secondary. If anybody was paying attention, we were'nt really lighting up the sack totals and run stops last year.

Right, and the coaching staff concluded (rightly or wrongly is to be determined) is that a lot of this was due to poor coverage by the secondary. They also feel that some of their young linemen, particularly Golston and Montgomery have shown a lot of progress in recent months and deserve a chance.

4mrusmc · 06-07-2007, 08:27 PM

[quote=SmootSmack;316467]I understand your frustration about the move. I agree that we really don't need Butler. Unless there's some other move on the horizon; the only one that would even be worthwhile though is trading Springs for a DT/DE. Even then it depends on who we get in return.

I'm not trying to make light of the situation as far as the car show thing. I know that it is for a good cause and everything. But, my ass is still a bit chapped from that pathetic showing from a defensive standpoint. And the fact that, to me the most glaring need is not secondary help, but D-line.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-07-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Right, and the coaching staff concluded (rightly or wrongly is to be determined) is that a lot of this was due to poor coverage by the secondary. They also feel that some of their young linemen, particularly Golston and Montgomery have shown a lot of progress in recent months and deserve a chance.

I just want someone to add to the Defensive end rotation. Another DT wouldnt hurt either. I am lazy right now, Smootsmack who is the top one available besides kedrick clancy who just got released by the cards.

SmootSmack · 06-07-2007, 08:37 PM

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I understand your frustration about the move. I agree that we really don't need Butler. Unless there's some other move on the horizon; the only one that would even be worthwhile though is trading Springs for a DT/DE. Even then it depends on who we get in return.

I'm not trying to make light of the situation as far as the car show thing. I know that it is for a good cause and everything. But, my ass is still a bit chapped from that pathetic showing from a defensive standpoint. And the fact that, to me the most glaring need is not secondary help, but D-line.

See, you should just say that. When you start bitching about car shows and things like that it's hard for anyone to believe you have anything worth saying.

If you just said that you believed the weaknesses on the defense last year were attributed to poor performance from the D-Line, and that's where our focus needs to be then your post would carry more weight.

SmootSmack · 06-07-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I just want someone to add to the Defensive end rotation. Another DT wouldnt hurt either. I am lazy right now, Smootsmack who is the top one available besides kedrick clancy who just got released by the cards.

I'm just as lazy

But I do know the Saints signed Clancy, so he's no longer an option.

Mattyk · 06-07-2007, 08:58 PM

If there was a DE out there worth signing I think the Skins would jump all over him.

dmek25 · 06-07-2007, 10:25 PM

yeah, the skins and about 8 or 9 other teams. and butler better be good on special teams, because he couldn't cover me

4mrusmc · 06-07-2007, 10:26 PM

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See, you should just say that. When you start bitching about car shows and things like that it's hard for anyone to believe you have anything worth saying.

If you just said that you believed the weaknesses on the defense last year were attributed to poor performance from the D-Line, and that's where our focus needs to be then your post would carry more weight.

Sorry smooty but I think you are missing the point. I AM bitching about a defense that under acheived last year. And how our team's focus is not addressing it. We have D-lineman worring about car shows at Redskins Park. Redskins Park, you know a football place. Sure, if you want to have a diversion or two in your off time, I can get with that. But, at Redskin Park, it should be about football buisness only and improving upon a terrible showing defensively. If I were the coach or owner, that is what I would say. Like I said I am still smarting over last year, and I wish I could be a better person like you and forget that, but maybe in time I will. But, for this team to absolutely do nothing in the offseason to try to improve at the D-line position is simply just wrong headed. And then to try to fix the problem with a bunch of defensive backs?.?. I don't know what the coaches saw last year, but as a fan I saw alot of deficiencies on the front line. And, it also kind of grinds my gears to see these high dollar players trott out their expensive cars that they paid for with their fat pay checks, that IMHO that they for the most part did not earn with the play on the field that I saw last year.

SmootSmack · 06-07-2007, 10:36 PM

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Sorry smooty but I think you are missing the point. I AM bitching about a defense that under acheived last year. And how our team's focus is not addressing it. We have D-lineman worring about car shows at Redskins Park. Redskins Park, you know a football place. Sure, if you want to have a diversion or two in your off time, I can get with that. But, at Redskin Park, it should be about football buisness only and improving upon a terrible showing defensively. If I were the coach or owner, that is what I would say. Like I said I am still smarting over last year, and I wish I could be a better person like you and forget that, but maybe in time I will. But, for this team to absolutely do nothing in the offseason to try to improve at the D-line position is simply just wrong headed. And then to try to fix the problem with a bunch of defensive backs?.?. I don't know what the coaches saw last year, but as a fan I saw alot of deficiencies on the front line. And, it also kind of grinds my gears to see these high dollar players trott out their expensive cars that they paid for with their fat pay checks, that IMHO that they for the most part did not earn with the play on the field that I saw last year.

Ok, whatever.

djnemo65 · 06-07-2007, 10:41 PM

People complain that we've mortgaged our draft in the past, then when we don't profligately throw picks at an aging Dlineman people complain about that. Like Matty said, if there was someone on the market the Skins would go for him but there is not, and the fact that they have so far (knock on wood) remained committed to the draft for next year is a good development.

It also suggests that Gibbs is going to be sticking around in some capacity after his contract is up, otherwise why build for the future?

As for the car show stuff, reminds me of that guy last year who said Cooley needed to take his mind off cheerleaders.

SmootSmack · 06-07-2007, 10:44 PM

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People complain that we've mortgaged our draft in the past, then when we don't profligately throw picks at an aging Dlineman people complain about that. Like Matty said, if there was someone on the market the Skins would go for him but there is not, and the fact that they have so far (knock on wood) remained committed to the draft for next year is a good development.

It also suggests that Gibbs is going to be sticking around in some capacity after his contract is up, otherwise why build for the future?

As for the car show stuff, reminds me of that guy last year who said Cooley needed to take his mind off cheerleaders.

I think the first two words of your post sum it up best "People complain" We could go 15-1 and there would be people who'd say "How did we lose that one game?!"

It's just the way it is

skinsfan_nn · 06-07-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the first two words of your post sum it up best "People complain" We could go 15-1 and there would be people who'd say "How did we lose that one game?!"

It's just the way it is

I think it's human nature for alot of folks to be complainers, no matter what.

Your are correct Mod man.

On the thread, we have some serious depth at CB, I would think a few might have to go....? Beats the heck out of the other problem we had last season, no depth at CB.

724Skinsfan · 06-07-2007, 11:09 PM

I agree, now it's time to start working on TD-producing depth.

06-07-2007, 08:20 PM	#31
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 43 Posts: 558	Re: Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler I just feel that we have more pressing needs on D-line, not at an already stocked secondary. If anybody was paying attention, we were'nt really lighting up the sack totals and run stops last year.

06-07-2007, 08:27 PM	#34
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 43 Posts: 558	Re: Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler [quote=SmootSmack;316467]I understand your frustration about the move. I agree that we really don't need Butler. Unless there's some other move on the horizon; the only one that would even be worthwhile though is trading Springs for a DT/DE. Even then it depends on who we get in return. I'm not trying to make light of the situation as far as the car show thing. I know that it is for a good cause and everything. But, my ass is still a bit chapped from that pathetic showing from a defensive standpoint. And the fact that, to me the most glaring need is not secondary help, but D-line.

06-07-2007, 08:58 PM	#38
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,203	Re: Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler If there was a DE out there worth signing I think the Skins would jump all over him. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

06-07-2007, 10:25 PM	#39
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,450	Re: Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler yeah, the skins and about 8 or 9 other teams. and butler better be good on special teams, because he couldn't cover me __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

06-07-2007, 10:41 PM	#42
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Location: MA Age: 32 Posts: 2,836	Re: Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler People complain that we've mortgaged our draft in the past, then when we don't profligately throw picks at an aging Dlineman people complain about that. Like Matty said, if there was someone on the market the Skins would go for him but there is not, and the fact that they have so far (knock on wood) remained committed to the draft for next year is a good development. It also suggests that Gibbs is going to be sticking around in some capacity after his contract is up, otherwise why build for the future? As for the car show stuff, reminds me of that guy last year who said Cooley needed to take his mind off cheerleaders.

06-07-2007, 11:09 PM	#45
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,476	Re: Skins sign CB Jerametrius Butler I agree, now it's time to start working on TD-producing depth. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

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