Portis vs. Betts

Mattyk · 07-05-2007, 08:56 AM

I'm taking tomorrow off, so I just have to make it through today.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-05-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm taking tomorrow off, so I just have to make it through today.

Damn I got a double-shift tomorrow. 7:30 am to 9:00 pm. God I hate my double shifts.

SmootSmack · 07-05-2007, 09:29 AM

I'm working from home today. Not really by choice though, had some bad Applebee's yesterday

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-06-2007, 12:45 AM

My double shift starts at 930 damn it.

Pocket$ $traight · 07-07-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Damn Reaper, I thought after that whole fiasco with Sean Taylor and training camp, where you made some sweeping claims and in the end were basically made to look like an alarmist fool, you would lighten up your rhetoric and be more humble about calling people out when their predictions or opinions differ from yours. Guess I was wrong.

O.k. so I was a year early on that. Big deal, better to be too early to the party than to never show up.

I will leave this topic with one stat.

In 2006, Betts' breakout season, he had 5 total touchdowns and 6 fumbles. Hmmm.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 07-10-2007, 06:56 PM

If i remembered didnt portis fumble alot his first year here. All RB fumble. Betts did a great job in there. I would feel very comfortable with him as our starter if Protis wanst here.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-11-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

If i remembered didnt portis fumble alot his first year here. All RB fumble. Betts did a great job in there. I would feel very comfortable with him as our starter if Protis wanst here.

Portis had 3 fumbles in his first season.

KLHJ2 · 07-11-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

He had 5, losing 4 of them.

NFL.com - Clinton Portis

I remember that 2 of them were BS calls. IMO.

Mattyk · 07-11-2007, 02:56 PM

What games are we talking about here?

KLHJ2 · 07-11-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What games are we talking about here?

One of them that I was refering to was against the Cleveland Browns. Portis landed on top of a pile of players and fumbled the ball. I know the rule that since he never physically touched the ground that he was not considered down, however his foreward progress was stopped and the whistle should have been blown. That is my percecption and not the percecption of the officials. Maybe I had my beer and Redskins goggles on, but that was my take on the situation.

budw38 · 07-11-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Why can't they both be great? Seems like a lot of people are attacking Betts in this thread and I don't get that. It's possible to think Portis is probably better without having to diminish what Betts was able to accomplish last year.

THANK YOU

. It is amazing that so many fans bash on player or another . Should we pick and chose a player at each position and sling mud at the guy less talanted ? Who cares if Betts is " better " or not ,,, whoever is moving the chains is going to get the carries .

RobH4413 · 07-11-2007, 08:45 PM

One thing that I love about Betts is his hands. IMO he's the perfect 2nd and short running back.

We run the PA, look deep, and if it's not there, we dump off to Betts who can make a play out of it. That's a luxury that a lot teams covet.

His fumbling is definitely a reason for major concern, and something that must be addressed during the off-season. I definitely won't be looking forward to the possibility of more fumbles than touchdowns. That will not fly.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 07-11-2007, 08:58 PM

I think tiki barber had a fumbling prob and was able to overcome it. Give Betts a break. Portis did fumble 5 times and the cleveland and Giants one were horrible ones. Especially the browns game. First play after the half.

RobH4413 · 07-11-2007, 09:11 PM

After carefully looking over Tiki's, Portis', and Betts' stats. I really don't see cause for panic.

Tiki's fumbles: 3,1,5,9,8,9,9,5,1,3 avg- 5.3
Clinton's fumbles: 5,3,5,3,0 avg- 3.2
Ladell's fumbles: 2,0,0,3,6

He's had issues, and it's cause for concern, but nothing more than that. The 6 is bad, but not necessarily indicative of a trend. Does anyone know where to find his college stats. I was able to find some, but couldn't find fumbles.

Pocket$ $traight · 07-12-2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

I think tiki barber had a fumbling prob and was able to overcome it. Give Betts a break. Portis did fumble 5 times and the cleveland and Giants one were horrible ones. Especially the browns game. First play after the half.

What do Tiki Barber and Betts have in common?

Nothing.

Why do people insist on bringing up Tiki? Is Betts changing the way he grips the ball? NO

Is Betts going to be the feature back going into the season? NO

Is Betts going to win the rushing title? NO

Is Betts going to be a Hall of Fame candidate. NO

Do not mention Tiki and Betts in the same sentence. It drips with ignorance.

View Poll Results: Who will lead the Skins in rushing this year?
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Betts	13	10.48%
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07-05-2007, 08:56 AM	#106
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: Portis vs. Betts I'm taking tomorrow off, so I just have to make it through today. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-05-2007, 09:29 AM	#108
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Portis vs. Betts I'm working from home today. Not really by choice though, had some bad Applebee's yesterday __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-06-2007, 12:45 AM	#109
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24 Posts: 11,005	Re: Portis vs. Betts My double shift starts at 930 damn it. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0 This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI Awesome isn't it.

07-10-2007, 06:56 PM	#111
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 45 Posts: 890	Re: Portis vs. Betts If i remembered didnt portis fumble alot his first year here. All RB fumble. Betts did a great job in there. I would feel very comfortable with him as our starter if Protis wanst here.

07-11-2007, 02:56 PM	#114
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: Portis vs. Betts What games are we talking about here? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-11-2007, 08:45 PM	#117
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 27 Posts: 2,381	Re: Portis vs. Betts One thing that I love about Betts is his hands. IMO he's the perfect 2nd and short running back. We run the PA, look deep, and if it's not there, we dump off to Betts who can make a play out of it. That's a luxury that a lot teams covet. His fumbling is definitely a reason for major concern, and something that must be addressed during the off-season. I definitely won't be looking forward to the possibility of more fumbles than touchdowns. That will not fly. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

07-11-2007, 08:58 PM	#118
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 45 Posts: 890	Re: Portis vs. Betts I think tiki barber had a fumbling prob and was able to overcome it. Give Betts a break. Portis did fumble 5 times and the cleveland and Giants one were horrible ones. Especially the browns game. First play after the half.

07-11-2007, 09:11 PM	#119
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 27 Posts: 2,381	Re: Portis vs. Betts After carefully looking over Tiki's, Portis', and Betts' stats. I really don't see cause for panic. Tiki's fumbles: 3,1,5,9,8,9,9,5,1,3 avg- 5.3 Clinton's fumbles: 5,3,5,3,0 avg- 3.2 Ladell's fumbles: 2,0,0,3,6 He's had issues, and it's cause for concern, but nothing more than that. The 6 is bad, but not necessarily indicative of a trend. Does anyone know where to find his college stats. I was able to find some, but couldn't find fumbles. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

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