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Old 07-08-2007, 12:00 PM   #31
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Re: Five Players to Watch in The NFC East '07 (This Isn't a J. Campbell Thread)

dude I wrote it at 3:00 am give me a break
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:19 PM   #32
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Re: Five Players to Watch in The NFC East '07 (This Isn't a J. Campbell Thread)

I think a bigger loss for the Giants is Lou Pettigout
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I think a bigger loss for the Giants is Lou Pettigout
Lou Pettigout was a big loss, but losing LUKE Pettigout hurt even more.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:08 PM   #34
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I think you fixed some holes but I think it's unrealistic to believe you'll go out and win 12 games with a QB that has only played 6 games showed promise in 2 and don't think he's going to struggle in some games and make stupid plays with a bad defensive front and complicated offense I think 10 games is a possibility but 8 -9 is more a reality I have to admit JC showed more promise that I thought for what I saw in him in college but I do believe he's 2 green and doesn't has a lot of support to win the thought games.
Wait wait, what???? "from what you saw in him in college" ??? You mean his senior year when he had to learn a new offense from a new coordinator right before the season and then went out and led them to a 13-0 record and was a finalist for the Johnny Unitas Award?? Did you not think that showed much promise? They would have won the national championship if the BCS didn't screw them.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM   #35
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i agree with you 12man.

rocky is definately a player to keep an eye on. with washington rushing the qb more often and fletcher now our middle lb it will be very interesting to see how rocky does. and thats if he wins the starting job over marshall.
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i agree with you 12man.

rocky is definately a player to keep an eye on. with washington rushing the qb more often and fletcher now our middle lb it will be very interesting to see how rocky does. and thats if he wins the starting job over marshall.
I thought the job was already Rocky's to lose ???
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I thought the job was already Rocky's to lose ???
supposedly it is but until opening day you never know.
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Re: Five Players to Watch in The NFC East '07 (This Isn't a J. Campbell Thread)

Couple of things.

Bobby Carpenter - New head coach uses a 3-4 that puts a premium on speed at the ILB position, so since Ayondele is OK and Bradie James is more mouth than action, I expect to see both Burnett and Carpenter vie for the second ilb spot. Carpenter can cover, and James is Roy Williamsesque in his coverage attempts..

Jason Campbell - full training camp as the Man, wasn't rushed into a bad situation, strong, strong OLine. I think the Skins are a playoff team this year.
Defense bounces back from the horrible season last year, tho I don't see a run stuffer on your D Line...
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Couple of things.

Bobby Carpenter - New head coach uses a 3-4 that puts a premium on speed at the ILB position, so since Ayondele is OK and Bradie James is more mouth than action, I expect to see both Burnett and Carpenter vie for the second ilb spot. Carpenter can cover, and James is Roy Williamsesque in his coverage attempts..

Jason Campbell - full training camp as the Man, wasn't rushed into a bad situation, strong, strong OLine. I think the Skins are a playoff team this year.
Defense bounces back from the horrible season last year, tho I don't see a run stuffer on your D Line...
Interesting. I too was thinking this might be Carpenter's year to crack the lineup. It will be interesting to see how both Carpenter and Rocky respond this year.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:25 PM   #40
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The Cowboys defense was inconsistent last year. Carpenter and the rest of the defenders need to show up every week for this team to get back in the playoffs.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:33 PM   #41
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Re: Five Players to Watch in The NFC East '07 (This Isn't a J. Campbell Thread)

What about the effect of the departure of Parcells? This article suggests that Dallas might have some problems without him in 2007:

YAP: The Dallas Cowboys


YAP= Year After Parcells. And history shows us that teams donít usually get better once Bill Parcells leaves town Ö

When Bill Parcells walked away from the New York Giants following the 1990 season, the G-men were coming off a truly special year. New York went 13-3 during the regular season, their fifth 10+ win season in the previous six years. They won all three playoff games as well, earning a Super Bowl title when Scott Norwoodís kick went wide right for the Buffalo Bills. In the year following Parcells departure, Ray Handley coached the Giants to an 8-8 record. The following year, they were 6-10.

Bill Parcells walked away from the New England Patriots following a magical 1996 season. The Pats went 11-5, won a pair of playoff games, and gave Green Bay a real battle as two touchdown underdogs in the Super Bowl before falling short. In the year following Parcells departure, the Pats declined slightly, finishing the regular season with a 10-6 mark under Pete Carroll. That, too, declined the following year as well, as New England went 9-7

Bill Parcells walked away from the Jets following the 1999 campaign, after three successful seasons in New York. But the Jets only won one playoff game in those three years, and went just 8-8, failing to reach the playoffs in his final year at the helm. The Jets improved to 9-7 in the first year without him, with Al Groh as the head man, then 10-6 the next year under Herm Edwards

Last year, Dallas went 9-7, a botched field goal snap away from upsetting the defending NFC champion Seattle Seahawks in Seattle in the playoffs. For the third time in his coaching career, he left a team that had just made the playoffs. In both previous instances, the team declined in their first YAP.

The offseason talk in Dallas is all about potential. Owner Jerry Jones has been very public in his opinion that the Cowboys are primed for a Super Bowl run, and many media outlets have mirrored his optimism. I donít. In my mind, the Cowboys have more question marks than sure things, and the vast majority of question marks are going to have to work out in their favor in order to make the postseason, let alone the Super Bowl.

Letís start with the coaching staff. Wade Phillips is the antithesis of Parcells in the locker room, with a player friendly, laid back style. Unfortunately for Cowboys supporters, Phillipsí approach has not worked in either of his two previous stints as an NFL head coach, lasting only two years in Denver and three in Buffalo. Heís never won a playoff game, much like the Cowboys, a team that hasnít won in the postseason since 1996. Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett is already the heir apparent for Phillips job, despite the fact that heís never called a single play in a regular season NFL game. There will HAVE to be tension between Phillips and Garrett, given the situation, and Garrett is not someone Iíd trust to call plays just yet. Bottom line: downgrade!

Tony Romo made a big splash on a national stage once Drew Bledsoe was mercifully benched. Romo went 5-1 in his first six starts, many of them national TV games. But once teams had film on the Cowboys inexperienced signal caller, Romoís production tanked, and the Cowboys went 1-4 down the stretch, losing three of those games as home favorites. Heís no sure thing coming into 2007, thatís for sure. Throw in an aging (ancient?) receiving corps, and arguably the worst backup QB in the league (Brad Johnson, who had absolutely nothing left in the tank in Minnesota last year), and the Cowboys offense looks like a major question mark. Itís worth noting that Dallas hasnít spent a first round draft choice on an offensive player since 1997!

The Dallas defense is just as question-filled as their offense. On the line, the Cowboys got very little out of former first rounder Marcus Spears and Chris Canty last year, a duo that combined for only 59 tackles and two sacks. LB Greg Ellis is coming off a torn ACL, with top draft pick Anthony Spencer (Purdue) expected to step right in to a starterís role. LB Bobby Carpenter, another 1st rounder, was a major disappointment as a rookie last year. In the secondary, the Cowboys made a nice pickup with Ken Hamlin at safety, but they still havenít found a cornerback to man the other side from Terrance Newman. Anthony Henry is clearly not the answer at that position. This defense may end up being quite good, but on paper, it reeks of mediocrity. The Cowboys ranked 20th in the NFL in points allowed last year; 24th against the pass.

So where does this leave us in our pre-preseason prognostication about the Cowboys? Right about where we were last year with this team, thatís where, with 20 of 22 starters returning. In 2006, Dallas was good, not great, compiling a 9-7 record before getting bounced out of the playoffs in the first round. Another nine win, Wild Card type season for the Cowboys seems well within reason, but itís hard to picture a dramatic uptick that sees them win a dozen or more games, dominating the division.
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Very good post. With stuff like that, you should definitely post more often...

I have to agree with most of that. Cowboys fans are always quick to say, "Spears and Canty are going to be beasts this year!" It's YEAR AFTER YEAR and they always disappoint.

And just like you mentioned, as soon as there was some film on Romo, he threw an insane amount of picks. I'm no NFL coach, but it would seem like he would throw into traffic quite a bit in the beginning and teams didn't pick up on it until later. He tried those same tricks later on and ended up throwing a fair amount of interceptions.

While I don't know about the tension between Phillips and Garrett, I can't see why their defense would be top five all of a sudden. Again, first year in the system and much like the Skins last year, I can't see them putting up huge numbers building basically around Demarcus Ware.
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Cowboys fans seem to think that Parcells was holding them back when he was actually holding them together. They have problems up front offensively that no one evr talks about until December for some reason.

Great Post by the way on YAP. That Giants team with Ray Handley was even worse tha ours with Petitbon.
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:40 PM   #44
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Nice article on YAP. Let's make sure we put a link to the original article though.

And welcome to the board
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:07 PM   #45
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I don't think that Dallas will have much change in Defensive philosophy. The Phillips 3/4 is one gap. Parcells uses a 2 gap 3/4. There are more responsibilities in a two gap system. The one gap 'cheats' more in that you aren't lined up forehead to forehead with the Oline. Everything is shade left, shade right, shoot the gap get into the backfield. Pretty simple along the line.

It's all talk till the whistle blows, but The defense was lights out till December - top 5 in the L - And the offense was scoring - top 8.
Then the L figured out that we couldn't - some Parcells haters would say wouldn't - rush the passer effectively without Ellis, who went down with an Achilles tear.

As to Phillips as a so-so Head Coach who has never won anything?
Well, our last Coach is going to the HOF and has two SB rings, and he got us exactly 0 playoff wins....

( Phillips got caught up in the Rob Johnson/Doug Flutie thing in Buffalo, and was - according to most pundits in the Buff area - forced to start Johnson. Rob Johnson as your starting QB is going to get you fired in a hurry. Don't know about Denver. I do know that the situation with Garrett won't be a distraction. Jones is - like or hate him -a powerful presence in the organization, and won't let Garrett rush the situation. Also, Phillips is 63 years old and has been coaching for about 40 years. The Dallas gig wears on a coach with all the demands that come with it. I am sure Garrett is willing to learn on the job and wait the old guy out...)

Other than that, I think there is enough depth along the DLine that Spears can go f**k himself if he keeps playing like he has been. Between Ratliff an Hatcher, I think Spears is playing for his starting spot this year.
Canty is the real deal tho. He is solid. Not the best pass rusher, but a run stopper extrodinaire.
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