Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league

Skinner · 07-16-2007, 09:14 PM

Damn, he right.Daniels and Wynn are like 80, and suck (seriously why havent we cut them now?) Griffin is always injured. Golston and Carter are the only promising players on tha d line.

Oakland Red · 07-16-2007, 09:51 PM

The secondary situation has greatly improved as has our linebacking, and that will reverberate in terms of what the defensive line will be able to do.

In passing situations, we have Marcus Washington (proven pass rusher) and Andre Carter (came on strong last year after switching from linebacker).

At tackle, Griffin has been excellent when healthy. He's healthy.

Anthony Montgomery has great talent and ability. Last year he was a rookie and it was a learning experience. I think he will show something big this year.

Kedric Golston has a lot of energy and ability and he is coming off a rookie season where he moved into a starting role. He will only be better this year.

Philip Daniels is healthy again and will only have to play in running situations.

Renaldo Wynn has always been a very competent and solid player, and is a good veteran to have as a backup in my view.

Joe Salavea has been hurt; we'll see how he does in a backup role now that he's healthy.

I have been hoping to hear some good news about Justin Hickman from UCLA, who we signed as a free agent. He is promising at least for the future.

Pocket$ $traight · 07-16-2007, 11:21 PM

Someone write that synopsis on some toilet paper so I can wipe my ass with it.

djnemo65 · 07-16-2007, 11:29 PM

Well, I don't think the author gives a fair evaluation of Griffin, who while underachieving for a stretch with the Giants, has been pretty dominant with us when healthy. Second, I don't get the feeling he has really studied or understands the potential of Golston and Montgomery, who I think both have a chance to play solidly this season. We lack depth and we won't be dominant, but I think that we have enough talent to be more than adequate.

One final point. In 2004 people looked at the Skins defense and saw the Dline as our weakness, predicting we would give up tons of yards on the ground. In fact, we were ranked as one of the top rush defenses all season, and finished ranked third overall in total defense. The point I am making is not that this is 2004, but that 2004 proves that when you have a defense clicking as a unit it can make up for a lot of things, including a lack of big time names up front.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-17-2007, 12:49 AM

I dont think that we have the worst

Beemnseven · 07-17-2007, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This analysis is most likely correct, but very simplistic in its nature. I don't think I learned anything I didn't already know from reading this report.

Sometimes, it's just that simple.

dmek25 · 07-17-2007, 08:57 AM

i think the way people on this board look at C. Griffith, and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different

gibbsisgod · 07-17-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i think the way people on this board look at C. Griffith, and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different

Is he any relation to Andy?

And good morning to you sir!

dmek25 · 07-17-2007, 09:19 AM

sorry about the spelling

and good morning. hope the kids are well

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-17-2007, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

i think the way people on this board look at C. Griffith, and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different

Griffin when healthy is a very solid presence up front. JUst has had injuries the past 2 seasons.

And GM everyone!

gibbsisgod · 07-17-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

sorry about the spelling

and good morning. hope the kids are well

They are just fine. I got my son(18 months) saying "Go REDSKINS" all the time now. It comes out more like "o ehsins" but I really like the effort. He is "Super Smart".

Edit: And GM to you as well MR. Quake! How are things in NC this morning?

irish · 07-17-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

if anyone disagrees with this, they aren't watching the same redskins

I couldnt have said it better myself.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-17-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

They are just fine. I got my son(18 months) saying "Go REDSKINS" all the time now. It comes out more like "o ehsins" but I really like the effort. He is "Super Smart".

Edit: And GM to you as well MR. Quake! How are things in NC this morning?

good my cousin is pissed cause he cant find a copy of NCAA.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 07-17-2007, 11:32 AM

I still haven't heard anyone argue the fact that our secondary will significantly bolster our pass rush:

No one can argue that our pass rush sucked last year - but don't forget that our DB situation is much, much improved with serious depth: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Maklin & Butler at CB and Taylor, Landry, Prioleau & Stoutmire at Safety. And don't forget the ever-versatile ADE at both!

Seriously, you can't tell me that the improved coverage won't lead to more time for our DE's to get to the Quarterback. IMO, if you want to improve pass rush, you can attack it from two persectives, better rushers or better coverage - the Skins went coverage.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-17-2007, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Redskins didn't address the defensive line deficiencies in the 2007 draft. Instead they tried to plug holes with veteran retreads.

This is really the only thing that I have a problem with. How was the team supposed to address the D-line in the draft? The FO took the best player available who also filled a big hole; and after that we didn't get to pick again until the next day. If we turned down some trades or something like that I'd see what they're saying but as it went I actually think the FO did the right thing (wow, I can't believe I said that).

I bet that if we had drafted Okoye or Anderson Scouts Inc would have said we were dumb for not addressing our weak secondary in the draft.

07-16-2007, 09:14 PM	#16
Skinner Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 48	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Damn, he right.Daniels and Wynn are like 80, and suck (seriously why havent we cut them now?) Griffin is always injured. Golston and Carter are the only promising players on tha d line.

07-16-2007, 09:51 PM	#17
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league The secondary situation has greatly improved as has our linebacking, and that will reverberate in terms of what the defensive line will be able to do. In passing situations, we have Marcus Washington (proven pass rusher) and Andre Carter (came on strong last year after switching from linebacker). At tackle, Griffin has been excellent when healthy. He's healthy. Anthony Montgomery has great talent and ability. Last year he was a rookie and it was a learning experience. I think he will show something big this year. Kedric Golston has a lot of energy and ability and he is coming off a rookie season where he moved into a starting role. He will only be better this year. Philip Daniels is healthy again and will only have to play in running situations. Renaldo Wynn has always been a very competent and solid player, and is a good veteran to have as a backup in my view. Joe Salavea has been hurt; we'll see how he does in a backup role now that he's healthy. I have been hoping to hear some good news about Justin Hickman from UCLA, who we signed as a free agent. He is promising at least for the future.

07-16-2007, 11:21 PM	#18
Pocket$ $traight Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 37 Posts: 4,261	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Someone write that synopsis on some toilet paper so I can wipe my ass with it.

07-16-2007, 11:29 PM	#19
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Location: MA Age: 32 Posts: 2,836	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Well, I don't think the author gives a fair evaluation of Griffin, who while underachieving for a stretch with the Giants, has been pretty dominant with us when healthy. Second, I don't get the feeling he has really studied or understands the potential of Golston and Montgomery, who I think both have a chance to play solidly this season. We lack depth and we won't be dominant, but I think that we have enough talent to be more than adequate. One final point. In 2004 people looked at the Skins defense and saw the Dline as our weakness, predicting we would give up tons of yards on the ground. In fact, we were ranked as one of the top rush defenses all season, and finished ranked third overall in total defense. The point I am making is not that this is 2004, but that 2004 proves that when you have a defense clicking as a unit it can make up for a lot of things, including a lack of big time names up front.

07-17-2007, 12:49 AM	#20
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24 Posts: 11,036	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league I dont think that we have the worst __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0 This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI Awesome isn't it.

07-17-2007, 08:57 AM	#22
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,448	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league i think the way people on this board look at C. Griffith, and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

07-17-2007, 09:19 AM	#24
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,448	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league sorry about the spelling and good morning. hope the kids are well __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

07-17-2007, 11:32 AM	#29
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league I still haven't heard anyone argue the fact that our secondary will significantly bolster our pass rush: No one can argue that our pass rush sucked last year - but don't forget that our DB situation is much, much improved with serious depth: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Maklin & Butler at CB and Taylor, Landry, Prioleau & Stoutmire at Safety. And don't forget the ever-versatile ADE at both! Seriously, you can't tell me that the improved coverage won't lead to more time for our DE's to get to the Quarterback. IMO, if you want to improve pass rush, you can attack it from two persectives, better rushers or better coverage - the Skins went coverage.

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