Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league

jdlea · 07-17-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

This is really the only thing that I have a problem with. How was the team supposed to address the D-line in the draft? The FO took the best player available who also filled a big hole; and after that we didn't get to pick again until the next day. If we turned down some trades or something like that I'd see what they're saying but as it went I actually think the FO did the right thing (wow, I can't believe I said that).

I bet that if we had drafted Okoye or Anderson Scouts Inc would have said we were dumb for not addressing our weak secondary in the draft.

I understand your frustration with the commentary, but how important were the picks of Blades, Sartz, and Palmer (especially Palmer)? I think they should have used some second day picks on the D Line.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-17-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I understand your frustration with the commentary, but how important were the picks of Blades, Sartz, and Palmer (especially Palmer)? I think they should have used some second day picks on the D Line.

Sure, but would any one that they picked up with the second day picks be that much better than Golsten or Montgomery? It would have been nice for future depth, which we clearly need, but I don't think we would have picked up 3 studs.
Plus, from what people have said it sounds like Sartz could be a steal. On the ohter hand, Palmer was probably a waste of a pick.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 07-17-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Palmer was probably a waste of a pick.

Palmer was a complete waste of a pick. Clearly our biggest draft mistake was not moving up in the 6th round to pick Mason Crosby as our kicker of the future. I mean, Suisham? WTF? Does anyone know if Vanderjagt is still out there to pick up? Nothing like losing close games with a crappy kicker.

sbaughone · 07-17-2007, 12:30 PM

The only problem with this is it assumes that the guy who wrote it (mr. anonymous...) is a better coach/talent scout than either Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams. I don't believe that to be true, or he (probably actually she...) would be making $2 million a year coaching instead of making $35k working for espn.

But if I was rating journalists I would say that espn has the worst in the USA.

SmootSmack · 07-17-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sbaughone

The only problem with this is it assumes that the guy who wrote it (mr. anonymous...) is a better coach/talent scout than either Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams. I don't believe that to be true, or he (probably actually she...) would be making $2 million a year coaching instead of making $35k working for espn.

But if I was rating journalists I would say that espn has the worst in the USA.

I take offense to that.

backrow · 07-17-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

They are just fine. I got my son(18 months) saying "Go REDSKINS" all the time now. It comes out more like "o ehsins" but I really like the effort. He is "Super Smart".

I've got mine saying: "If I were to pay you all cash, and close quickly, what is the minimum you would take for this house?" Learned it all on his own, at age 28!

Now, my grandsons, that's another story. The three year old likes Lightning McQueen, and the 14 month old likes following after his older brother. There is hope, because his other Grandpa is also a fellow Skins fan.

jdlea · 07-17-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Sure, but would any one that they picked up with the second day picks be that much better than Golsten or Montgomery? It would have been nice for future depth, which we clearly need, but I don't think we would have picked up 3 studs.
Plus, from what people have said it sounds like Sartz could be a steal. On the ohter hand, Palmer was probably a waste of a pick.

I agree they wouldn't have gotten guys much better than Golston or Montgomery, however, they do need guys who could develop into decent players. At least someone to replace Salave'a would have been nice.

GTripp0012 · 07-17-2007, 03:11 PM

Don't watch Cold Pizza. Why are you doing that to yourself?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-17-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Don't watch Cold Pizza. Why are you doing that to yourself?

its called first take now

hail_2_da_skins · 07-17-2007, 03:22 PM

Quite honestly, the Redskins defensive line is horrible. It's been a glaring weakness for a few years. Williams has attempted to band aid the piss-poor line by using a lot of zone blitzes and formation shifts, but last year, this bunch couldn't hide. The team did not make any personnel changes this off season and is hoping that the improved back 7 will make up for the lack of talent up front. I hope Greg Williams is right, but I have my doubts.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-17-2007, 03:55 PM

I don't think it was his blitzes that made it elite in 2004 and 2005. I think Griffin needs to stay healthy and Golston needs to continue to progress.

hail_2_da_skins · 07-17-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I don't think it was his blitzes that made it elite in 2004 and 2005. I think Griffin needs to stay healthy and Golston needs to continue to progress.

I agree with you. The only way this line can improve is to stay healthy and get tremendous improvement from Golston and Montgomery. Being the die-hard fan that I am, I believe it can happen, but realistically, I'm worried until I actually see it.

Monksdown · 07-17-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

its called first take now

doesnt matter how you paint shit, it's still shit.

Beemnseven · 07-17-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

I still haven't heard anyone argue the fact that our secondary will significantly bolster our pass rush:

No one can argue that our pass rush sucked last year - but don't forget that our DB situation is much, much improved with serious depth: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Maklin & Butler at CB and Taylor, Landry, Prioleau & Stoutmire at Safety. And don't forget the ever-versatile ADE at both!

Seriously, you can't tell me that the improved coverage won't lead to more time for our DE's to get to the Quarterback. IMO, if you want to improve pass rush, you can attack it from two persectives, better rushers or better coverage - the Skins went coverage.

The problem with this philosophy is that if your secondary gets banged up, then you've got NOTHING in terms of a pass rush. It's crucial to have D-linemen who can get pressure on the QB by themselves. We didn't have that in '06, Springs and Prioleau got nicked up and we set the NFL record for fewest sacks in a non-strike year.

I'd like to think the secondary is significantly better than last year. But Rogers still needs to progress, Smoot is a question mark thanks to his performance in Minnesota, and Springs is still on the fragile side of 30. Are Macklin and Butler far and away better than than the likes of Kenny Wright/Mike Rumph? I hope so, but do we know for sure?

These are the things that make me pessimistic about '07. The secondary is right behind the D-line as far as the biggest question marks of the upcoming season.

The Zimmermans · 07-17-2007, 04:52 PM

Our offense should hit it's stride this year, and possess the ball, giving our defense less time on the field, leading to better performance. If JC doesnt get first downs, we will be in serious trouble, simple as that.

We cannot afford to get behind, or the run with mutilate us

07-17-2007, 12:30 PM	#34
sbaughone Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 72	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league The only problem with this is it assumes that the guy who wrote it (mr. anonymous...) is a better coach/talent scout than either Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams. I don't believe that to be true, or he (probably actually she...) would be making $2 million a year coaching instead of making $35k working for espn. But if I was rating journalists I would say that espn has the worst in the USA.

07-17-2007, 03:11 PM	#38
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Don't watch Cold Pizza. Why are you doing that to yourself?

07-17-2007, 03:22 PM	#40
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 57 Posts: 862	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Quite honestly, the Redskins defensive line is horrible. It's been a glaring weakness for a few years. Williams has attempted to band aid the piss-poor line by using a lot of zone blitzes and formation shifts, but last year, this bunch couldn't hide. The team did not make any personnel changes this off season and is hoping that the improved back 7 will make up for the lack of talent up front. I hope Greg Williams is right, but I have my doubts. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

07-17-2007, 03:55 PM	#41
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,119	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league I don't think it was his blitzes that made it elite in 2004 and 2005. I think Griffin needs to stay healthy and Golston needs to continue to progress. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-17-2007, 04:52 PM	#45
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 28 Posts: 937	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Our offense should hit it's stride this year, and possess the ball, giving our defense less time on the field, leading to better performance. If JC doesnt get first downs, we will be in serious trouble, simple as that. We cannot afford to get behind, or the run with mutilate us __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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