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Old 07-16-2007, 04:03 PM   #1
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Link: http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...ory?id=2923211

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Chris Cooley has scored 13 times and averaged 64 receptions (12 yards per catch) over the past two seasons. He led the team in receptions in 2006 and showed his athleticism with a 6-yard touchdown scamper versus the Carolina Panthers. Cooley is light on his feet and has become an efficient route runner, finding voids in short and intermediate zones. He is sure-handed and displays power and quickness after the catch. Cooley is a solid blocker at the point, but his lack of height hinders his ability to get leverage on the edge. The Redskins have veteran Todd Yoder (a career backup) who has not been a factor as a receiver. Third-year player Eric Edwards was recently acquired from the Cardinals and may give Redskins QB Jason Campbell more options in the passing game.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:09 PM   #2
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Eric Edwards? Are you kidding me? Who the f** is Eric Edwards?!

I maintain, I'll take Warpath over 95% of the talking heads.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:12 PM   #3
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14th is a bit low. I understand that there's a huge dropoff in talent after Cooley, but the same can be said for eight out of the top ten rated teams. And you'd think Kellen Winslow would have to show some sort of consistency before he's gushed over to the extent he is in that article...
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while i think im not as high on cooley as some around here, he is definitely a top 5 tight end
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Dmek I think Cooley is great but he isn't top 5 top 10 sure but what they rank here is team dept

Top 5 TE

Gates, Antonio
Gonzalez, Tony
Crumpler, Alge
Witten, Jason
Shockey, Jeremy

with Heap, T comming six and Cooley seventh in my book behind him you have Winslow and V. Davis just because of potential
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Dmek I think Cooley is great but he isn't top 5 top 10 sure but what they rank here is team dept

Top 5 TE

Gates, Antonio
Gonzalez, Tony
Crumpler, Alge
Witten, Jason
Shockey, Jeremy

with Heap, T comming six and Cooley seventh in my book behind him you have Winslow and V. Davis just because of potential
Can't argue with you there.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:58 PM   #7
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Dmek I think Cooley is great but he isn't top 5 top 10 sure but what they rank here is team dept

Top 5 TE

Gates, Antonio
Gonzalez, Tony
Crumpler, Alge
Witten, Jason
Shockey, Jeremy

with Heap, T comming six and Cooley seventh in my book behind him you have Winslow and V. Davis just because of potential
I take Cooley over Crumpler, Witten and definitely Shockey.
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:06 PM   #8
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Dmek I think Cooley is great but he isn't top 5 top 10 sure but what they rank here is team dept

Top 5 TE

Gates, Antonio
Gonzalez, Tony
Crumpler, Alge
Witten, Jason
Shockey, Jeremy

with Heap, T comming six and Cooley seventh in my book behind him you have Winslow and V. Davis just because of potential
Shockey is pretty awful. He can't block, he doesn't have the best hands, and hes undisciplined. He runs his mouth a lot, and for whatever reason, the media associates that with having skill.

Witten has a very different game than Cooley. Very smart player. It's all about personal preference at TE, but I don't think Witten's skill set is too much different than your run of the mill TE. Certainly in my mind inferior to Cooley's.

I don't think I could make an argument for Cooley over the other 3, (Save of course, "YAC is really REALLY important". It is.) Crumpler's a better blocker, and the other two have really had off the hook production.

I think you are underrating Heap a bit (and obviously Cooley), but its no biggie.
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I originally posted that I hated Shockey, and that he was over-rated.

But pulled up his stats and they're pretty fuggin good.
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Shockey is pretty awful. He can't block, he doesn't have the best hands, and hes undisciplined.

Witten has a very different game than Cooley. Very smart player. It's all about personal preference at TE, but I don't think Witten's skill set is too much different than your run of the mill TE. Certainly in my mind inferior to Cooley's.

I don't think I could make an argument for Cooley over the other 3, (Save of course, "YAC is really REALLY important". It is.) Crumpler's a better blocker, and the other two have really had off the hook production.

I think you are underrating Heap a bit (and obviously Cooley), but its no biggie.
Yeah, I agree. There is no scenario in which I put Shockey in the Top 5 best TE's in football. Also, I agree about Witten. I think he's a very nice player, but he's not the same player. I'd take Cooley over him any day of the week.

As for Crumpler, as the primary target of his QB, it's a little unfair to compare the 2. I'd be interested to see a scenario in which Cooley were the primary target (just to see where his production would be, however, I don't wish injury on all the wide outs).
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I originally posted that I hated Shockey, and that he was over-rated.

But pulled up his stats and they're pretty fuggin good.
If Manning gets him the ball, hes going to get a lot of yards.

That doesn't mean a whole lot to me. I want better than expected production from my TE position. Shockey doesn't bring that.
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If Manning gets him the ball, hes going to get a lot of yards.

That doesn't mean a whole lot to me. I want better than expected production from my TE position. Shockey doesn't bring that.
I really don't think Manning is that good of a QB, and his stats are as good as Cooley's, if not better.

He's done it for longer, and he's fairly consistent.

Does he drop balls, yes. But he's still a good tight end.

Bastard, yes, talented... definitely.
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I really don't think Manning is that good of a QB, and his stats are as good as Cooley's, if not better.

He's done it for longer, and he's fairly consistent.

Does he drop balls, yes. But he's still a good tight end.

Bastard, yes, talented... definitely.
Doesn't matter if its Spergeon Wynn at QB...well maybe Spergeon Wynn.

If he gets more passes thrown at him than Cooley, hes going to get more yards (unless the talent discrepancy is crazy). That doesn't tell us enough about the player.
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I take Cooley over Crumpler, Witten and definitely Shockey.
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