Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-18-2007, 03:37 PM   #91
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riggo44 View Post
I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully this will shed so much light on the subject and bring such stiffer laws. That the ignorant people out there that take part in dog fights will see that animal cruelty just isnít right.
I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 07-18-2007, 03:39 PM   #92
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riggo44 View Post
Nice, I hate the Patriots too. So I guess we fell the same way about a few things.(Besides Tony Stewart that is)
I hope you get to cash in on your Turner sig's as well.
Yeah, I still need to work on you about Stewart. LOL.

We have actually fallen on similar sides of the argument on several occasions.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 03:42 PM   #93
The Starter
 
Riggo44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Clemente CA
Age: 40
Posts: 2,389
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.

Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace
__________________
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Benjamin Franklin
Riggo44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 03:47 PM   #94
Registered User
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 50
Posts: 15,818
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.
Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 03:53 PM   #95
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riggo44 View Post
Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace
If I had a clue how to make that group profitable, then I would.
I firmly believe that God put animals on this earth for us to eat...deer included. I do not condone hunting deer if you only want his antlers. You should hunt him to eat him only.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 03:54 PM   #96
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.

REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:03 PM   #97
Contains football related knowledge
 
JoeRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 51
Posts: 8,741
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Couple of things:
1. I read in one of the Vick related articles that the Feds have a 95% conviction rate on their indictments. (Scooter Libby, Enron Execs - rich, powerful, connected and in jail on federal indictments).

2. The Virginia federal circuit is politely known as the "Rocket Docket" - No dicking around there. The trial will begin by December or January '08.
__________________
You aren't worth the water in my spit but, maybe, just maybe, you're worth the lead in my shotgun.
JoeRedskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:22 PM   #98
Registered User
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 50
Posts: 15,818
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?
I will find a link but PETA's home head quarters is here in the Tidewater area so they make the News often. It was two worker who went to get these dogs at a shelter that was over run with dogs and they offered to help. The reason the shelter was over run was because they do not uthanize any animals. PETA offered to help and told the shelter they would find them homes and not uthanize the dogs. On the way back the workers stopped an uthanized most if not all of the dogs and dumped them in a dumpster behind a business. The business discovered the dogs and the cops came and traced it back to PETA. The two employess where charged with some type of crimes I think one was unthanizing dogs and not lic to do it. PETA head quarters acted as they had no idea it had happened but most people feel thet they did because who gave the employees the uthanization stuff and didn't they inquire to what happened to the dogs.

Just last week a PETA worker got caught stealing a hunting dog. She found the dog walking down the road and picked it up and there was no problem with that. She then removed the dogs collar and a tracking devise for locating the dog. I think a cop stop her and noticed the dog which she was trying to hide and he noticed the markings. It was the sheriffs dog and then she was asked about the dogs collar and stuff and she said that it did not have one. Well they tracked it down and found it sitting beside the locator and then found her finger prints. This one has not gone to trial and what she was doing was stealling the dog because they think hunters do not care for their dogs. Oh, they use the dogs for hunting which they also do not like.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:32 PM   #99
Camp Scrub
 
Dirty_Landry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 17
Talking Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
I don't think you understood at all what GibbsisGod was trying to say. No one is discrediting the value of human life. But allegations against Vick have nothing to do with sending an army to war. It was an inappropriate and irrelevant analogy. Then your second post was about the FBI and CIA being scum. Not a good start.

its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T
Dirty_Landry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:33 PM   #100
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,792
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?
ARTICLE: DEA investigating PETA over euthanasia drug training (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)

FBR - Education about Animal Research
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:38 PM   #101
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,341
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.
I'm with you on PETA, I hate being on the same side as them because they are wackos and more of a political fringe group than a group that really cares for animals.

There is a group that already exists that is more mainstream and truly focus on animal well-being without being nut-jobs...The Humane Society of the U.S. They are heavily involved in the Vick issue, lobbying the NFL and Arthur Blank, (Falcons & Home Depot owner) to have Vick suspended.

The Humane Society of the United States
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' ó Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:39 PM   #102
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,792
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty_Landry View Post
its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T
I still don't think you get it. It seems like you're trying to antagonize for the sake of antagonizing.

I mean, it's like when the Redskins lose a game and everyone gets pissed we all know that grand scheme it's not a big deal when people are dying senselessly every day. But it's not relevant to the immediate discussion of the Redskins. To the immediate discussion of Vick and his alleged mistreatment of dogs and his future in the league, the AIDS epidemic in South Africa (as an example) doesn't really seem to fit.

And I still don't know what the CIA has to do with all this

And leave PSUSKINSFAN21 alone
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:41 PM   #103
Registered User
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 50
Posts: 15,818
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty_Landry View Post
its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T
Like I posted earlier you need to take your political stuff over to the parking lot as this is not the place for it. Why not start thread in the parking lot section and explain to us what the CIA did to the black panthers.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 04:46 PM   #104
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,341
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan View Post
What's the over/under for how long before we hear the conviction and follo-up sentencing? I say 18 months before conviction/sentencing.
I'll take the Under. I heard on Mike & Mike this morning that the Federal Court in Richmond, VA moves its caseload faster than any other Fed Court in the U.S. Greenberg mentioned he spoke with an attorney familiar with the Federal system and estimated the trial starting in Oct. / Nov. 2007.

This link is from the Virginian Pilot, today. Vick and his cohorts have their bond hearing and arraignment on July 26th.

ARTICLE: First court date set for Michael Vick in dogfighting case (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' ó Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2007, 06:00 PM   #105
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty_Landry View Post
its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!!
What makes one life more important than another?
For Instance, does someone that is severely mentally retarded not deserve the same rights as someone who is "normal"? You may argue that "well he's human, so yes". While I would agree yes is the answer, but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human? Is it the brain function? Or are you just more interested in the specific race? Cause there are plenty of dogs that are more intelligent than humans.
While I do not treat my Basset Hounds better than myself, they are definitely like my children, and I love them as such, and give them a great life. I do not feel this is wrong in any way, nor should I apologize for it.

Quote:
it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!?
Well those are valid issues, however if you look at the title of this thread, this thread is about how Vick treated his dogs. As such, you should expect to hear about animal cruelty and people for or against it. This is not a post about homelessness...feel free to start a thread in the parking lot to discuss these issues and I'm sure many of us here will be right there to discuss it with you.

Quote:
we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc.
While I do not do this, I do not get upset at people who do. It's their money and can use it in any manner they wish. Not that I am judging, but if they spent $700 on a dog, well, that's better than going to Vegas and giving it away on the black jack table. Not that I'm against gambling either...hell I love roulette.

Quote:
i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world
As I am sure they would love to ship you somewhere where you're not allowed to speak your mind, but oddly enough, we live in America and people are free here.

Quote:
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....
Start a thread on what they did. I'd like to hear it, cause as far as my limited knowledge goes on the black panthers, they were not a great group of people. Maybe you could teach us a thing or two.

Quote:
like the AIN'T
the word "ain't", is actually a legitamate english word. It's now in dictionaries.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.33785 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25