Grand Jury Indicts Vick

Riggo44

Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace

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firstdown

Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.

jsarno

If I had a clue how to make that group profitable, then I would.
I firmly believe that God put animals on this earth for us to eat...deer included. I do not condone hunting deer if you only want his antlers. You should hunt him to eat him only.

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jsarno

REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?

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JoeRedskin

Couple of things:
1. I read in one of the Vick related articles that the Feds have a 95% conviction rate on their indictments. (Scooter Libby, Enron Execs - rich, powerful, connected and in jail on federal indictments).

2. The Virginia federal circuit is politely known as the "Rocket Docket" - No dicking around there. The trial will begin by December or January '08.

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firstdown

I will find a link but PETA's home head quarters is here in the Tidewater area so they make the News often. It was two worker who went to get these dogs at a shelter that was over run with dogs and they offered to help. The reason the shelter was over run was because they do not uthanize any animals. PETA offered to help and told the shelter they would find them homes and not uthanize the dogs. On the way back the workers stopped an uthanized most if not all of the dogs and dumped them in a dumpster behind a business. The business discovered the dogs and the cops came and traced it back to PETA. The two employess where charged with some type of crimes I think one was unthanizing dogs and not lic to do it. PETA head quarters acted as they had no idea it had happened but most people feel thet they did because who gave the employees the uthanization stuff and didn't they inquire to what happened to the dogs.

Just last week a PETA worker got caught stealing a hunting dog. She found the dog walking down the road and picked it up and there was no problem with that. She then removed the dogs collar and a tracking devise for locating the dog. I think a cop stop her and noticed the dog which she was trying to hide and he noticed the markings. It was the sheriffs dog and then she was asked about the dogs collar and stuff and she said that it did not have one. Well they tracked it down and found it sitting beside the locator and then found her finger prints. This one has not gone to trial and what she was doing was stealling the dog because they think hunters do not care for their dogs. Oh, they use the dogs for hunting which they also do not like.

Dirty_Landry

its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T

SmootSmack

ARTICLE: DEA investigating PETA over euthanasia drug training (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)

FBR - Education about Animal Research

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Slingin Sammy 33

I'm with you on PETA, I hate being on the same side as them because they are wackos and more of a political fringe group than a group that really cares for animals.

There is a group that already exists that is more mainstream and truly focus on animal well-being without being nut-jobs...The Humane Society of the U.S. They are heavily involved in the Vick issue, lobbying the NFL and Arthur Blank, (Falcons & Home Depot owner) to have Vick suspended.

The Humane Society of the United States

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SmootSmack

I still don't think you get it. It seems like you're trying to antagonize for the sake of antagonizing.

I mean, it's like when the Redskins lose a game and everyone gets pissed we all know that grand scheme it's not a big deal when people are dying senselessly every day. But it's not relevant to the immediate discussion of the Redskins. To the immediate discussion of Vick and his alleged mistreatment of dogs and his future in the league, the AIDS epidemic in South Africa (as an example) doesn't really seem to fit.

And I still don't know what the CIA has to do with all this

And leave PSUSKINSFAN21 alone

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firstdown

Like I posted earlier you need to take your political stuff over to the parking lot as this is not the place for it. Why not start thread in the parking lot section and explain to us what the CIA did to the black panthers.

Slingin Sammy 33

I'll take the Under. I heard on Mike & Mike this morning that the Federal Court in Richmond, VA moves its caseload faster than any other Fed Court in the U.S. Greenberg mentioned he spoke with an attorney familiar with the Federal system and estimated the trial starting in Oct. / Nov. 2007.

This link is from the Virginian Pilot, today. Vick and his cohorts have their bond hearing and arraignment on July 26th.

ARTICLE: First court date set for Michael Vick in dogfighting case (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)

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jsarno

What makes one life more important than another?
For Instance, does someone that is severely mentally retarded not deserve the same rights as someone who is "normal"? You may argue that "well he's human, so yes". While I would agree yes is the answer, but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human? Is it the brain function? Or are you just more interested in the specific race? Cause there are plenty of dogs that are more intelligent than humans.
While I do not treat my Basset Hounds better than myself, they are definitely like my children, and I love them as such, and give them a great life. I do not feel this is wrong in any way, nor should I apologize for it.

Well those are valid issues, however if you look at the title of this thread, this thread is about how Vick treated his dogs. As such, you should expect to hear about animal cruelty and people for or against it. This is not a post about homelessness...feel free to start a thread in the parking lot to discuss these issues and I'm sure many of us here will be right there to discuss it with you.

While I do not do this, I do not get upset at people who do. It's their money and can use it in any manner they wish. Not that I am judging, but if they spent $700 on a dog, well, that's better than going to Vegas and giving it away on the black jack table. Not that I'm against gambling either...hell I love roulette.

As I am sure they would love to ship you somewhere where you're not allowed to speak your mind, but oddly enough, we live in America and people are free here.

Start a thread on what they did. I'd like to hear it, cause as far as my limited knowledge goes on the black panthers, they were not a great group of people. Maybe you could teach us a thing or two.

the word "ain't", is actually a legitamate english word. It's now in dictionaries.

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