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Old 07-30-2007, 03:01 AM   #241
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Well, he'll only be 33 then. Someone might do it. especially considering that he'll have state of the art work out equipment in prison.
Sad thing is, he wasn't really even a "good" qb, but this happening will make others say "he was struck down in his prime, imagine what he could have done".
Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to introduce the next Bo Jackson. Michael Vick
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to introduce the next Bo Jackson. Michael Vick

Don't disgrace Bo...at least he was injured.

Vick should be Pete Rose'd in the NFL.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:20 AM   #243
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Don't disgrace Bo...at least he was injured.

Vick should be Pete Rose'd in the NFL.

Pete Rose should be in the HOF and you know it.
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Pete Rose should be in the HOF and you know it.
Well, he should be...but only because he played a full career before becoming an idiot.
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Well, he should be...but only because he played a full career before becoming an idiot.
I look at it this way.

A player is inducted to any hall of fame because of his historical contributions to the sport. He without a doubt has considerably contributed to baseball regardless of his infractions. He has already been punished. How much longer does this fiasco have to go on?

On a side note if the NFL refused to remove OJ Simpson from the Football HOF because he was inducted due to his contributions to the game, then it should be a professional standard. I understand that it is not. But, maybe it should be.

Thirdly, what is more of a travesty? Barry Bonds is still allowed to pursue the Home run record and he broke the rules and will possibly get into the Hall of Fame. I think that what Pete Rose did was Just as severe as what Bonds did. So if you will not let Rose into the HOF, then do not let Bonds continue to play for the record.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:13 AM   #246
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So uh, who is going to sign Vick in 2013? Any thoughts?
He may be guilty but he ain't doing any time for this. Even if he does some time it's not going to be anything significant. He is going to loose 07 and that's probably it. His days in Atl are over, but he'll be on someones roster next year.

I could see him going somewhere like KC. I'm not sure what the hell KC is thinking putting their future in the hands of Broodie Croyle. Vick probably needs a guy like Herm Edwards as his HC. Like a lot of these guys, he really needs somewhat of a father figure that he really respects. Whether the KC organization would want him is another story.
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Vick co-defendant pleads guilty - CNN.com
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One of the co-defendants in the Michael Vick federal dogfighting case entered a guilty plea on Monday and pledged to fully cooperate with prosecutors.
I wonder if this means that things are about to get even worse for Vick.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:48 AM   #248
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Anyone remember what Leonard Little did of the Rams? He was driving drunk and wrecked into a women and killed her. Then he got caught driving drunk again after he killed someone. Yet, he is still playing in the NFL. This guy should have been thrown out of the league. What he did was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaay worse than what Vick did. But if I remember correctly, his case did not get nearly the media attention this case is getting.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:38 AM   #249
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I wonder if this means that things are about to get even worse for Vick.
Very much so. This guy will be the star witness for the prosecution and he will make Vick look very bad. I really think Vick is going to jail.
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Leonard Little definately did something that had far, far, far worse consequences. But, he's nowhere near the star that Vick is/was. So, I can understand why Vick's case is getting so much press whereas Little's case didn't.

As for Vick doing time, federal judges must give a sentence within a certain range. I know the federal sentencing guidelines quite well (I worked on a few appeals relating to them) and if Vick is found guilty on all the charges, he's no going to be playing football anytime soon. You hear about sentences in state cases being really strange/light/inconsistent, but we're talking about federal charges. Different story.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:57 AM   #251
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Leonard Little definately did something that had far, far, far worse consequences. But, he's nowhere near the star that Vick is/was. So, I can understand why Vick's case is getting so much press whereas Little's case didn't.

As for Vick doing time, federal judges must give a sentence within a certain range. I know the federal sentencing guidelines quite well (I worked on a few appeals relating to them) and if Vick is found guilty on all the charges, he's no going to be playing football anytime soon. You hear about sentences in state cases being really strange/light/inconsistent, but we're talking about federal charges. Different story.
I heard that about Federal sentences on some talk show but wondered if it was really true. It sounds like it is. Thanks for making that clear. If Vick is found guilty of the crime he will do the time.
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I heard that about Federal sentences on some talk show but wondered if it was really true. It sounds like it is. Thanks for making that clear. If Vick is found guilty of the crime he will do the time.
What I said is not entirely accurate, but it is basically true. Since about 2002, the federal sentencing guidelines have been, technically, merely advisory and not mandatory. That said, federal judges very rarely depart from the sentencing guidelines. So while my previous post was not entirely accurate, the substance (i.e., if Vick is convicted on all the charges he will see a lot of jail time) was correct.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:07 PM   #253
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the feds are really out to get his ass and send him to jail.one of his co-defendants plead guilty today and will no doubt testify against vick.since his
trial is november 23rd,i can't see him playing this year much,if at all.if this is'nt cleared up within the next5 weeks,i can't see him playing at all!if he gets cut and hope the redskins pursue him when all his troubles clear up!
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He may be guilty but he ain't doing any time for this. Even if he does some time it's not going to be anything significant. He is going to loose 07 and that's probably it. His days in Atl are over, but he'll be on someones roster next year.

I could see him going somewhere like KC. I'm not sure what the hell KC is thinking putting their future in the hands of Broodie Croyle. Vick probably needs a guy like Herm Edwards as his HC. Like a lot of these guys, he really needs somewhat of a father figure that he really respects. Whether the KC organization would want him is another story.
I'm sure the Raiders wouldn't be scared off by his felony. They'd probably embrace him.
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