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Old 08-05-2007, 08:50 PM   #61
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Re: Is Brady Quinn Being Selfish By Holding Out?

very true Vicks good on the move too. But to play QB you have to be able to throw the ball downfield. Smith size will unfortually hurt him in the long run.
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very true Vicks good on the move too. But to play QB you have to be able to throw the ball downfield. Smith size will unfortually hurt him in the long run.

Exactly. Couldnt have said it better myself. I just think he has too much promise and potential to pass on. In a EXTREMELY run heavy system with a good running back (i.e. Chargers, LT) he could be effective I guess. Lots of PA and Bootlegs, QB Draws. Kinda like Vick is. The Falcons were willing to try and mold a team AROUND Vick. I think if Troy found someone that liked him THAT much, he would be great.

Lots of if's there. lol
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lets hope we hit on Palmer so we can get rid of brunell or collins or in a dream world both of them lol,.
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lets hope we hit on Palmer so we can get rid of brunell or collins or in a dream world both of them lol,.

Hell yeah! I LOVE Casey Bramlet. I think he is awesome and would serve GREAT as a #2/#3 QB. He is cool, calm and can get it done in the clutch. Oh, and he throws a really mean deep ball. Palmer looks ok. I like Bramlet better.
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lol
Quinn will be good ONE DAY....
Eli will be good one day too. lol.

I can't predict the future but I'm all about seeing what he has got on the field and if he's NFL material or can reach elite status.
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Eli will be good one day too. lol.

I can't predict the future but I'm all about seeing what he has got on the field and if he's NFL material or can reach elite status.

HAHAHA....lotsa laughs over that one.
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Re: Is Brady Quinn Being Selfish By Holding Out?

Wilsowilsoo:

For you to think Quinn is going to make big on his first contract and become a sponge, what credible evidence do you have?
First - Charlie endorsed him. Pretty good endorsement.
Second - Look at his work ethic, Russell showed up fat and out of shape, Quinn was ripped and ready.
Third - He learned a pro offense and how to study and prepare in college.
Fourth - He was a student of the game.

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You are a freaking OSU homer and are not objective so your posts almost don't deserve a response. But since they were so stupid I will opine. You who are so keen into the pro football world apparently ranked Troy Smith as a first round pick, unlike all the 6 figure experts that are paid to analyze and do this for a living. While I will agree that they don't always predict talent to the best degree, you and your vast depth of insight disagreed with about 30 of the best experts paid by the business. Please educate me with your great knowledge and expertise...you freaking goof....are you fucking kidding me...you are so blind in your homerism you can't be objective. Are you honestly trying to sell me that Smith who got kicked off the team (why?) is a better QB than Quinn.? Look at the numbers and if you want to go there then I will absolutely embarrass you.

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Wilsowilsoo:

For you to think Quinn is going to make big on his first contract and become a sponge, what credible evidence do you have?
First - Charlie endorsed him. Pretty good endorsement.
Second - Look at his work ethic, Russell showed up fat and out of shape, Quinn was ripped and ready.
Third - He learned a pro offense and how to study and prepare in college.
Fourth - He was a student of the game.

Grat 92:

You are a freaking OSU homer and are not objective so your posts almost don't deserve a response. But since they were so stupid I will opine. You who are so keen into the pro football world apparently ranked Troy Smith as a first round pick, unlike all the 6 figure experts that are paid to analyze and do this for a living. While I will agree that they don't always predict talent to the best degree, you and your vast depth of insight disagreed with about 30 of the best experts paid by the business. Please educate me with your great knowledge and expertise...you freaking goof....are you fucking kidding me...you are so blind in your homerism you can't be objective. Are you honestly trying to sell me that Smith who got kicked off the team (why?) is a better QB than Quinn.? Look at the numbers and if you want to go there then I will absolutely embarrass you.

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I don't recall Crat making any sort of personal attack on you. So there's no need for you to do so to him.

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You are a freaking OSU homer and are not objective so your posts almost don't deserve a response. But since they were so stupid I will opine. You who are so keen into the pro football world apparently ranked Troy Smith as a first round pick, unlike all the 6 figure experts that are paid to analyze and do this for a living. While I will agree that they don't always predict talent to the best degree, you and your vast depth of insight disagreed with about 30 of the best experts paid by the business. Please educate me with your great knowledge and expertise...you freaking goof....are you fucking kidding me...you are so blind in your homerism you can't be objective. Are you honestly trying to sell me that Smith who got kicked off the team (why?) is a better QB than Quinn.? Look at the numbers and if you want to go there then I will absolutely embarrass you.

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Brady has an arm? That's news to me.
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Quinn has a real good NFL arm. Not Russell good, but no one has that good an arm.
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I can honestly say I have no idea what this means and or what in the world you are talking about? I said Quinn is not going to be a very good pro IMO and that he is well on his way to confirming my opinion by souring his relationship with the Browns right off the bat.
Uh...

One Week Holdout=NFL bust? Am I missing something?

Seriously though, the fact that you don't like the guy should have no bearing on your evaluation of him as a player. If we can't evaluate objectively, then we best be sayin nothin.
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Wilsowilsoo:

For you to think Quinn is going to make big on his first contract and become a sponge, what credible evidence do you have?
First - Charlie endorsed him. Pretty good endorsement.
Second - Look at his work ethic, Russell showed up fat and out of shape, Quinn was ripped and ready.
Third - He learned a pro offense and how to study and prepare in college.
Fourth - He was a student of the game.

Grat 92:

You are a freaking OSU homer and are not objective so your posts almost don't deserve a response. But since they were so stupid I will opine. You who are so keen into the pro football world apparently ranked Troy Smith as a first round pick, unlike all the 6 figure experts that are paid to analyze and do this for a living. While I will agree that they don't always predict talent to the best degree, you and your vast depth of insight disagreed with about 30 of the best experts paid by the business. Please educate me with your great knowledge and expertise...you freaking goof....are you fucking kidding me...you are so blind in your homerism you can't be objective. Are you honestly trying to sell me that Smith who got kicked off the team (why?) is a better QB than Quinn.? Look at the numbers and if you want to go there then I will absolutely embarrass you.

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I think "Top 5 Warpathers" should be mandatory reading prior to posting after reading some of the recent comments
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If I'm a player I would be looking for the best deal that I could sign my name too. After all is said and done this is still a business and teams will cut you just as fast as they can when they feel you no longer have any value to them so why shouldn't a player want his best pay day that they can get. This could be the only deal he ever gets as he could get injured and never have the chance to strike another deal. Does anyone have any idea what Quinn is even trying to get or what the Browns are even offering him?
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Quinn has to do what he and his agent feels is right. I think it's a shame that he's blowing his chance to start the season as the starter, but I'm not sure which side is more to blame here. Holdouts stink, but it's part of the business side of the game.
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