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Old 08-14-2007, 11:40 AM   #1
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Is it only me, or am I noticing a certain amount of desperation from the FO. First it was Bradford now Pinkston. A couple of questions come to mind...

1. Why the desperation now? We knew what we had Since December 06. Did the FO just now realize that we need upgrades there?

2. Do they truly believe that Bradford/Pinkston is an upgrade in any way shape or form?

3. Is there something not being made public that is wrong with one of the current WRs?

3. What is the message being sent to ARE, BL, JT, and ME?

4. IMHO, making these types of additions, this late, only disrupts the team chemistry. From a practice point of view, a) fewer reps for the incumbent 4 (named above), the QB's now have to gain some type of timing with the new WRs, and it seems that with Saunders "timing offense" that moves this late would be counter productive.

My 2 cents...
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It's not desperation. Both ARE and BL are hurt right now.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:49 AM   #3
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need some warm bodies to practice. thats about the extent of it
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:49 AM   #4
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Agree that both are hurt now.

However, I don't think both hurt last week when we signed Bradford Why not give Trash/Espy/Berman/Hoag/McAddley/Toler more reps and let them play. I would assume they are all on the roster now because they have shot at making it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:24 PM   #5
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I give our front office credit for exhausting all potential options that are on the market, however we pursued Loyd & ARE (who I like a lot) when Denver (always a thorn in our offseason side) made a trade for Javon Walker, a bona fide big play wr.
oh well, we've got to move on w/what we've got. I wonder how bad Loyd's shin splints are & how it came about. I only remember runners getting shin splints from running on pavement too much.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:28 PM   #6
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I don't think we're desperate at all. I don't think ARE and Loyd are great wideouts, but they're definately serviceable. Does anyone else think that ARE and Lloyd are decent, but that maybe they are just not as good as we Redskins fans hoped they'd be? Just because a player doesn't meet our sky-high expectations as fans, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are a bust or bad.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:59 PM   #7
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ARE has shown he's a decent nfl player, he just can't get open - or much separation- all the time. I think we could get him the ball a lot more.

Loyd on the other hand, had 1 decent year in SF, but hasn't looked worthy of a starting job here, much less a 10mil bonus. I think he's on a short leash. If he screws up or doesn't produce, he'll get benched or even Keyshawned. I think Gibbs is well aware of his potential distraction capability.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:26 PM   #8
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I give our front office credit for exhausting all potential options that are on the market, however we pursued Loyd & ARE (who I like a lot) when Denver (always a thorn in our offseason side) made a trade for Javon Walker, a bona fide big play wr.
oh well, we've got to move on w/what we've got. I wonder how bad Loyd's shin splints are & how it came about. I only remember runners getting shin splints from running on pavement too much.
I used to get shin splints when I played High School football, they're pretty painful, but I played through them with some help from advil. I don't understand how Lloyd has missed two weeks of practice, with a minor injury such as shin splints. They should be completely healed by now.
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I don't think we're desperate at all. I don't think ARE and Loyd are great wideouts, but they're definately serviceable. Does anyone else think that ARE and Lloyd are decent, but that maybe they are just not as good as we Redskins fans hoped they'd be? Just because a player doesn't meet our sky-high expectations as fans, it doesn't necessarily follow that they are a bust or bad.
I think Brandon Lloyd's presence makes this team worse. I truly do. I think we would be better with him off the roster and someone else sliding onto the team (Espy) to round out the depth. I think Lloyd is a locker room problem waiting to happen.

I think ARE can be quite a weapon in the slot if you have two other WRs on the outside who can draw the defense's attention. But I don't like ARE playing out wide very much.
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I think Brandon Lloyd's presence makes this team worse. I truly do. I think we would be better with him off the roster and someone else sliding onto the team (Espy) to round out the depth. I think Lloyd is a locker room problem waiting to happen.

I think ARE can be quite a weapon in the slot if you have two other WRs on the outside who can draw the defense's attention. But I don't like ARE playing out wide very much.
I agree that Lloyd is likely a locker room problem and, as I've stated numerous times in other threads, I personally do not care for him. But, he's probably better on the field than he looked in 2006.
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I used to get shin splints when I played High School football, they're pretty painful, but I played through them with some help from advil. I don't understand how Lloyd has missed two weeks of practice, with a minor injury such as shin splints. They should be completely healed by now.
That's what I thought. I also thought you couldn't get shin splints unless you've been doing an awful lot of pounding. Given the time period of his injury (out most of 2 weeks), that would mean he was running an awful lot prior to camp starting. It's possible I guess, just doesn't sound like a legit injury.

I'll leave it to Bubba though, shin splints may be related to something else & they're advising him not to practice. JLC's blog today said that Loyd wanted to go saturday night but they wouldn't let him.

No matter what the extent of his injury, he came in as the #3 & Thrash has been having a great camp, so he might be #4 & falling.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:51 PM   #12
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I think they are afraid that Lloyd can't play. I don't mean because of injuries. I think he is so fearful of physical contact that he literally will not do what they want him to do. I've never seen a pro player that averse to contact unless it was Skeets Nehemiah. He makes Micheal Westbrook look like Jack Tatum.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:57 PM   #13
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I think they are afraid that Lloyd can't play. I don't mean because of injuries. I think he is so fearful of physical contact that he literally will not do what they want him to do. I've never seen a pro player that averse to contact unless it was Skeets Nehemiah. He makes Micheal Westbrook look like Jack Tatum.
If that's the case, explain why we picked up PINKSTON!?!?!?! :cheeky-sm
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The most important thing I'm comfortable with is big targets for JC to see like Eric Edwards and of course Cooley on the flat. Once Jason's timing is there, he will be able to hit Antwaan and Santana with ease. He seems to over throw the little targets which leaves them open for big hits.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:50 PM   #15
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If that's the case, explain why we picked up PINKSTON!?!?!?! :cheeky-sm
I agree. Lloyd isn't 100%. Bradford hasn't impressed. Epsy and Thrash are just 4th and 5th receivers. They really want Epsy to make the team. But he has to have an almost perfect outing against a second and third string defense.
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