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Old 08-21-2007, 01:07 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #61
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Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??

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For those of you that are saying it is a money thing, there are 5 non- starters that count more against the cap than Marshall's $1.1M

1) Mark Brunnell $3.5M cap hit this year
2) Brandon Lloyd $2.4M " "
3) Fred Smoot $2.1M"
4) Todd Collins $1.4M
5) Ladell Betts $1.3M

We have $4M in cap space tied up in our two back up QB's and we can not afford $1.1M for a starting caliber LB and valuable back up.
THIS IS A STUPID MOVE.
There is something behind the scenes we do not yet know about. Coach Williams and Marshall must be fighting.
Your numbers are totally wrong here. Only by cutting Lemar Marshall and Todd Collins would the Redskins not take a cap hit.

According to your list of players the Redskins were to cut here are the real cap hits Brandon Lloyd it would be a $7 million cap hit. If they cut Fred Smoot it would be a $5 million cap hit. If they cut Ladell Betts it would be a $1.4 million cap hit and if the Redskins released Mark Brunell it would cost them $1 million. You have to account for the release fees that is why your numbers are wrong.

Where as if they cut Todd Collins it would save the team $1.25 million and by cutting Lemar Marshall it is saving them about $1 million.

So that narrows down your list to Todd Collins and Lemar Marshall. And being that the Redskins just drafted two LB's makes Marshall the sensible cost cutter...
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:08 PM   #62
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The eagles also released Trotter today. Wouldn't surprise me to see Marshall in an Eagles uniform...
Either there or uhh..umm..the Giants. I wouldn't be suprised to see him end up in NY. They're thin at LB anyway.

This division loves to play musical chairs with its linebackers.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:13 PM   #63
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I knew that he had played for G. Williams before. Maybe that is another reason why Gregg would feel safer with him at that position. I don't think it's that bad of a move considering that he knows both players better and his system better than the fans do.

I'm for it if it enhances his defensive system. No hard feelings toward Marshall, but if his own coach doesn't feel like he will hack it than I support the transaction.
This is the same coach that wanted Archuleta!
Wow, so now Marshall can not hack it in the NFL? Don't drink the Kool Aid man.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:15 PM   #64
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Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??

It's moves like this which are why we are in the position we've been in latley...I dont get this in the slightest....without this guy, we wouldnt have made the playoffs in 2005...he made some HUGE plays for us that year while STILL playing out of position......JLC's blog said that he had not requested a trade and was "totally suprised by it", and while the success of our season didnt depend on it...if any of our LB's go down (and hey look at that MW is already hurt)...this guy can jump in at any role.....
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The success of this season did not hinge on Marshall. I'm sure Godfrey and/or the other backups can do just fine in that role. The move is a surprise, but it's not a move that will impact the overall success of the season.
I agree, I just think most people are shocked by it. Why release a decent vet for someone who is unproven in GW's system? He must have rubbed someone the wrong way, or the coaching staff sees something in our rookies.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:20 PM   #66
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I agree, I just think most people are shocked by it. Why release a decent vet for someone who is unproven in GW's system. He must have rubbed someone the wrong way, or the coaching staff sees something in our rookies.

I think this guy played for GW in Tennessee, if I'm not mistaken. But I just can't see Marshall rubbing someone the wrong way. He seems like a stand up guy.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:29 PM   #67
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This reminds me of the Ryan Clark situation. A decent, young and inexpensive Ryan Clark for an old Archuleta. Bad move.
An out of work and old Randall Godfrey is the next brilliant move by our front office? Come on.
If our drafted rookies have so much upside, why is Dallas Sartz not ready to play? We have to cut a great backup (Marshall) so Sartz can ride the pine, not contribute this year and hope he will develop?
We will live to regret releasing Lemar, just like we did regret cutting Ryan Clark.
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I think we are overanalyzing this. The simplest answer to why he got cut is that he was outplayed in camp.

This offseason, we've made a significant effort to find LBs who are good vs. the pass. Fletcher, we made a run at Briggs, drafting Sartz and Blades, two very underrated cover LBs, who dropped due to size. For two straight years now, Marshall has been awful against the pass. While his prowess against the run could have justified the 4th LB spot, its possible he didn't "fit" our new defense.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:36 PM   #69
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This reminds me of the Ryan Clark situation.
Randall Godfrey? Come on.
Godfrey is another guy coming off a good year against the pass. He is two years older than Marshall, but they could certainly do worse.

Not sure if this is an upgrade, but since Lemar wasn't going to be around next year, it makes some sense.
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The only explanation that makes sense is that Marshall was grumbling about the prospect of being a backup. Ife he was okay with that role and was willing to be a team guy, then I believe this is a mistake.
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I think we are overanalyzing this. The simplest answer to why he got cut is that he was outplayed in camp.

This offseason, we've made a significant effort to find LBs who are good vs. the pass. Fletcher, we made a run at Briggs, drafting Sartz and Blades, two very underrated cover LBs, who dropped due to size. For two straight years now, Marshall has been awful against the pass. While his prowess against the run could have justified the 4th LB spot, its possible he didn't "fit" our new defense.
I agree that it probably came down to his play. Let's be honest, Marshall was a weakness at MLB last year.
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I agree that it probably came down to his play. Let's be honest, Marshall was a weakness at MLB last year.
He was probaboly our biggest defensive playmaker in 2005, however. I mean the entire defense did a great job and he was in good position alot of times...but if you go back to 2005, he made some HUGE plays for us....
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Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??

The timing of it is curious.. Why cut him now rather than after the next game unless it was just so obvious he was not going to make the team?
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Re: Lamar Marshall released for Randall Godfrey??

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Marshall was released in part to help clear cap room for a contract extension to Chris Cooley.

It seems like we'd hear something about a Cooley contract extension if talks were getting close. So there's no reason to believe an extension is imminent.

Nonetheless, Marshall's release does clear $1 million in cap space, and assuming Godfrey is making the vet minimum, this move would represent a net increase in our cap space.

I don't want to read much into it at this point, other than to say it's unlike the Skins to leave cap room on the table.
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Huh??? How is Marshall going to beat out Hilenmeyer? Unless he got hurt or something.
My friends who follow the Bears have told me that the Bears have been talking about replacing him. Last season he registered a whopping 36 tackles and no INTs. He's never had more than 55 tackles in ANY season in his career.
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