Harrington is looking great in Cincy game...

jsarno · 08-29-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I definately think that guys can revive their careers with a change of scenery and experience. I just don't see Harrington as one of those guys. I've followed him long enough (I live in NFC North country) to say with a high degree of certainty that the guy is unlikely to be a success story in the NFL.

I think this season will show me. It's hard for me to make an accurate assessment of him when he played being a piss poor line and had a poor running game. Now he has a system that is at worst average.

RobH4413 · 08-29-2007, 06:44 PM

I'm thinking Harrington does well in ATL. While I'm not normally on the "His teams have all sucked", bandwagon. I think Detroit really sucked, and Miami was no dynasty.

I'm curious as to what Miami thought of him, I've been recently conversing a little on one of the Miami boards and I'll report back with some of there thoughts.

jsarno · 08-29-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

I'm thinking Harrington does well in ATL. While I'm not normally on the "His teams have all sucked", bandwagon. I think Detroit really sucked, and Miami was no dynasty.

I'm curious as to what Miami thought of him, I've been recently conversing a little on one of the Miami boards and I'll report back with some of there thoughts.

But if you recall, Miami was not his team, it was Culpepper's, and Harrington was always in danger of losing the job. Now the Falcons are his team, there is no one behind him worthy of replacing him either. He might be more relaxed now than he ever was, even though he is replacing a perceived qb god in Vick.

RobH4413 · 08-29-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

But if you recall, Miami was not his team, it was Culpepper's, and Harrington was always in danger of losing the job. Now the Falcons are his team, there is no one behind him worthy of replacing him either. He might be more relaxed now than he ever was, even though he is replacing a perceived qb god in Vick.

Meh...if your going to succeed in the NFL, you've got to deal with pressures all around you. If you cant because your afraid you'll do bad... well duh that's the NFL. I don't think that coming in as known starter has many benefits, except for the fact that he's getting all the reps in practice.

I guess he'll be more confident, but I think it more has to do with what his teammates think of him. In this case, I think you may have a point there.

jsarno · 08-29-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Meh...if your going to succeed in the NFL, you've got to deal with pressures all around you. If you cant because your afraid you'll do bad... well duh that's the NFL. I don't think that coming in as known starter has many benefits, except for the fact that he's getting all the reps in practice.

I guess he'll be more confident, but I think it more has to do with what his teammates think of him. In this case, I think you may have a point there.

Just an FYI, Yahoo has predicted him to get around 3500 yards and 24 tds with around 17 ints.
To me, that makes him a very good sleeper, and I am not sure he will do that well.

GTripp0012 · 08-29-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't recall him breaking his neck.

Just wait until GTripp gets a hold of this thread. If you thought he was a Brady Quinn fan just wait until he gets started on Gannon!

I...can't get involved!

I mean I was going to and all, but now that you've set the enthusiasm bar so high, I'm just not feeling up to it.

backrow · 08-29-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Just an FYI, Yahoo has predicted him to get around 3500 yards and 24 tds with around 17 ints.
To me, that makes him a very good sleeper, and I am not sure he will do that well.

Thanks Jsarno! My fantasy league draft is tommorrow eve!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-29-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Just an FYI, Yahoo has predicted him to get around 3500 yards and 24 tds with around 17 ints.
To me, that makes him a very good sleeper, and I am not sure he will do that well.

If Harrington throws for 3,500 yards and 24tds, I will be nothing short of amazed. Only 8 QBs threw for more than 3,500 yards last season, and those QBs are: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlisberger. Only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees threw for more than 24 TDs and 3,500 yards.

I cannot see Joey Harrington have as good of a season as Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees had last year, particularly in Atlanta's run-first offense. They've got some good RBs in Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood and, aside from aging Joe Horn, no solid wideouts. Finally, their O-line is still suspect. Wayne Gandy was getting abused at LT by Justin Smith.

Assuming Harrington isn't injured or benched, I see him throwing for 2,900 yards, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs.

SmootSmack · 08-29-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If Harrington throws for 3,500 yards and 24tds, I will be nothing short of amazed. Only 8 QBs threw for more than 3,500 yards last season, and those QBs are: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlisberger. Only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees threw for more than 24 TDs and 3,500 yards.

I cannot see Joey Harrington have as good of a season as Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees had last year, particularly in Atlanta's run-first offense. They've got some good RBs in Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood and, aside from aging Joe Horn, no solid wideouts. Finally, their O-line is still suspect. Wayne Gandy was getting abused at LT by Justin Smith.

Assuming Harrington isn't injured or benched, I see him throwing for 2,900 yards, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs.

That's cause Justin Smith is the man!!! (that's for you dmek

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jsarno · 08-29-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If Harrington throws for 3,500 yards and 24tds, I will be nothing short of amazed. Only 8 QBs threw for more than 3,500 yards last season, and those QBs are: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Ben Roethlisberger. Only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees threw for more than 24 TDs and 3,500 yards.

I cannot see Joey Harrington have as good of a season as Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, and Drew Brees had last year, particularly in Atlanta's run-first offense. They've got some good RBs in Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood and, aside from aging Joe Horn, no solid wideouts. Finally, their O-line is still suspect. Wayne Gandy was getting abused at LT by Justin Smith.

Assuming Harrington isn't injured or benched, I see him throwing for 2,900 yards, 17 TDs, and 16 INTs.

I agree with you on that, especially considering this is Harrington's first season in this system.

70Chip · 08-30-2007, 11:14 AM

I would be cautious about the Falcon's offensive prospects. Remember Steve Spurrier's first pre-season? Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerfel, and Sage Rosenfels all put up huge numbers. Likewise Bobby petrino looks like a genius now, but when the regular season comes, the NFL defensive gurus generally even things up.

44Dive · 08-30-2007, 07:10 PM

I'm pulling for Harrington to suck so the Falcons will approach us about a deal for Brunell...who has to be the highest paid 3rd stringer in the history of any sport in the history of mankind or the universe!

jsarno · 08-30-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Dive

I'm pulling for Harrington to suck so the Falcons will approach us about a deal for Brunell...who has to be the highest paid 3rd stringer in the history of any sport in the history of mankind or the universe!

Well, we're not letting go of Brunell unless they will cover a lot of his salary...let's not forget he takes up a lot of cap space.

By the way, stop exaggerating, he's a 2nd stringer, and as back ups go, not a bad one.

08-29-2007, 06:44 PM	#32
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 2,586	Re: Harrington is looking great in Cincy game... I'm thinking Harrington does well in ATL. While I'm not normally on the "His teams have all sucked", bandwagon. I think Detroit really sucked, and Miami was no dynasty. I'm curious as to what Miami thought of him, I've been recently conversing a little on one of the Miami boards and I'll report back with some of there thoughts. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

08-30-2007, 11:14 AM	#41
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Posts: 3,048	Re: Harrington is looking great in Cincy game... I would be cautious about the Falcon's offensive prospects. Remember Steve Spurrier's first pre-season? Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerfel, and Sage Rosenfels all put up huge numbers. Likewise Bobby petrino looks like a genius now, but when the regular season comes, the NFL defensive gurus generally even things up. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

08-30-2007, 07:10 PM	#42
44Dive Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	Re: Harrington is looking great in Cincy game... I'm pulling for Harrington to suck so the Falcons will approach us about a deal for Brunell...who has to be the highest paid 3rd stringer in the history of any sport in the history of mankind or the universe!

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