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Old 08-30-2007, 11:18 PM   #1
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Why Cartwright over ARE?

We spent all this money on ARE to be a WR and a special teamer, and all we do is let him loose on punt returns, why not kick returns?
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:33 PM   #2
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Re: Why Cartwright over ARE?

he said himself that he doesnt like to do kick off returns. And gibbs prefers RBs over WRs on KO returns.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:36 PM   #3
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Re: Why Cartwright over ARE?

Why all the hate towards Rock as a kick returner? If anyone doesn't remember, he set a Redskins record for most kick return yards in a season. And he also returned a kick for a touchdown against Dallas. Antwaan is doing fine as a punt returner and Rock is doing fine as a kick returner. And his deal doesn't look that bad in comparison to some of the deals players got this offseason.
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Why all the hate towards Rock as a kick returner? If anyone doesn't remember, he set a Redskins record for most kick return yards in a season. And he also returned a kick for a touchdown against Dallas.
Couldn't that be attributed to the fact that the D also set team records for futility? I'd like to see his average compared to a guy like Brian Mitchell or Mike Nelms (who I had to look up, he averaged 29.7 yards per kick return in '81).
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:47 PM   #5
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Re: Why Cartwright over ARE?

It's simple, in Pittsburgh he was mainly a #3 WR, they could afford to turn him loose on kickoffs.

I'm not sure if many teams around the league put their #2 WRs in on kickoffs regularly.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:49 PM   #6
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Re: Why Cartwright over ARE?

The only point I'm trying to make is that Rock is not that bad of a kick returner. I think the point Jsarno was trying to make is that ARE has a big deal and he doesn't return kicks. I think the reason we gave him a big deal is because that was what the market dictated and we really wanted him. He's a good wide receiver for us, plus he is also good as a punt returner and on trick plays.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:53 PM   #7
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Re: Why Cartwright over ARE?

If there's one thing I think we can count on this year, it's that Al Saunders will see to it that Randle El plays much more of a significant role with the offense than he did last season.
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It's simple, in Pittsburgh he was mainly a #3 WR, they could afford to turn him loose on kickoffs.

I'm not sure if many teams around the league put their #2 WRs in on kickoffs regularly.
Most don't, you're right...and ARE was a #3 all last year and it has yet to be seen what he will be this year.
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Most don't, you're right...and ARE was a #3 all last year and it has yet to be seen what he will be this year.
Actually he finished the year at the #2
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Why all the hate towards Rock as a kick returner? If anyone doesn't remember, he set a Redskins record for most kick return yards in a season. And he also returned a kick for a touchdown against Dallas. Antwaan is doing fine as a punt returner and Rock is doing fine as a kick returner. And his deal doesn't look that bad in comparison to some of the deals players got this offseason.
It's not about yards, it's about yards per attempt.
Rock is not explosive, and I feel like we could have had the league leader if we had someone explosive back there. Rock is not even close to our fastest player...he's no burner, and he's not amazingly ellusive. We as skins fans overrate him as a KR because he's so small and he has heart.
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Actually he finished the year at the #2
LOL...but you get the point, he was a #3 most of the year and still didn't do KR. I suspect he will be a #3 again this year too.
There is no way in hell he's worth his contract if he doesn't do kick returns.
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Re: Why Cartwright over ARE?

We haven't seen much of Lloyd this preseason and ARE has been pretty solid. I like ARE to start the year as the #2 and really surprise some people this year.
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yeah Lloyd started something like the first 9 games and ARE started the last few. As for Rock as the kick returner, we could do a lot worse than him. The reason we don't see ARE on kickoffs is because he is a starter at wide receiver. Steve Smith can return punts and kickoffs but you will never see him do that anymore because he is too valuable to Carolina on offense.
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We haven't seen much of Lloyd this preseason and ARE has been pretty solid. I like ARE to start the year as the #2 and really surprise some people this year.
I hope you're right...we need one of them to step up. I personally think it will be Lloyd, but I could care less, we need both of them to step up.
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yeah Lloyd started something like the first 9 games and ARE started the last few. As for Rock as the kick returner, we could do a lot worse than him. The reason we don't see ARE on kickoffs is because he is a starter at wide receiver. Steve Smith can return punts and kickoffs but you will never see him do that anymore because he is too valuable to Carolina on offense.

That is laughable...you just compared Steve Smith to ARE.
You do realize that ARE only had 32 catches for 351 yards last year right?
ARE has not been valuable to our offense to this point, hopefully that will change.

Your excuse is the excuse for Santana not to do kickoff returns, not ARE.
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