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Old 09-09-2007, 08:38 PM   #31
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Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread

No, once you kick a field goal your possession is over.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:38 PM   #32
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Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread

What the hell, Mike Sellers? Do you have to wait for half the team to bring you down or can you just let one or two defenders make the tackle? I mean, come on, make it fair for crying out loud, you friggin' man-beast.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:40 PM   #33
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1) I agree about Betts. He scares me sometimes.
2) The timeout was not that bad. When you're 3rd and 7, you need to make sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing. Maybe someone noticed that a player was out of position. If they didn't convert then the Miami D gets plenty of time to rest due to change of possession. 3) I liked the call to go ahead and kick. If they miss, I believe they still have 3 other chances. Why risk a backfield sack, fumble or tackle for loss? If Suisham can't hit a 39 yarder with the game on the line Week 1 is a good time to find out instead of Week 16.
We have 3 chances?? Can someone else confirm this?
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:41 PM   #34
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Re: The week 1 "what the hell?" thread

As I said before, once you kick it or punt it, regardless of the down your possession is up.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:42 PM   #35
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i think that if its a bad snap or something like that the holder can fall on it or attempt a fake for the first down or touchdown and then try another fg next play if they want. as long as the FG is not ACTUALLY attempted. am i right ?
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Looks like 7 and 5 were broken.
Oddly enough, his explanation was legit...good post SS.
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We have 3 chances?? Can someone else confirm this?
We don't get another chance if he misses the kick. But if it's a botched snap or the hold is bad, or a penalty. Then it just becomes 2nd down.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:45 PM   #38
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Looks like 7 and 5 were broken.
Oddly enough, his explanation was legit...good post SS.
7 wasnt broken, the ball wasnt snapped
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1) I agree about Betts. He scares me sometimes.
I like the guy, but don't take a chance of fumbling late in the 4th.

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2) The timeout was not that bad. When you're 3rd and 7, you need to make sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing. Maybe someone noticed that a player was out of position. If they didn't convert then the Miami D gets plenty of time to rest due to change of possession.
They called it almost immediately after the previous play, so it wasn't due to someone out of position. It was for to make sure everyone was on the same page, but it didn't work at all. Instead, it gave the Dolphins a better way to rest up to stop us and get on their same page.

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3) I liked the call to go ahead and kick. If they miss, I believe they still have 3 other chances. Why risk a backfield sack, fumble or tackle for loss? If Suisham can't hit a 39 yarder with the game on the line Week 1 is a good time to find out instead of Week 16.
Umm, no...once you kick, the play is over no matter what the result. The only way we would have another "shot" at it is if it was a botched snap and we fell on it, but once the kicker touches his foot to the ball, there is no going back, and no more chances. Don't know where you got that, but you do not get 3 chances at it.
Portis was running through their best run defense, he could have easily gotten at least 5-7 more yards.
While I do agree, I want to know if Suisham can handle the pressure, you don't waste 3 downs of probably getting more yardage when your kicker has proven NOTHING.
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We don't get another chance if he misses the kick. But if it's a botched snap or the hold is bad, or a penalty. Then it just becomes 2nd down.
Or blocked and recovered behind the line of scrimmage, but yeah I was mistaken about getting another try after a missed field goals. Was that ever a rule? I'm still satisfied with going ahead and kicking it rather chance a turnover.
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7 wasnt broken, the ball wasnt snapped

You are incorrect sir.
7- All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward).

There were two players moving, and one moving forward.
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or possibly get another PI, Holding, false start or some other penalty or even a loss of ydg.
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Oh yeah I missed one.What the hell was up with us getting that B.S false start on the exact same motion play that we drew the other team offsides in the preseason.That exact same shift was not a penalty in the pre-season so why is it a penalty now?
differnt refs,that was def bs,I'm sure that play was designed to do that,Gibbs needs to get clarification from the nfl on that
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You are incorrect sir.
7- All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward).

There were two players moving, and one moving forward.
Like i said the way that is worded says all players must be stationary at snap. except that one. the ball was never snapped so basically this rule doesnt apply. Though Coach did say he told the Refs that he had a "NO PLAY" Play called and that if they didnt jump offsides he was going to call a time out.
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Or blocked and recovered behind the line of scrimmage, but yeah I was mistaken about getting another try after a missed field goals. Was that ever a rule? I'm still satisfied with going ahead and kicking it rather chance a turnover.
Only cause he hit it...if he missed it, and they got the ball with decent field position and came down to beat us, then what would you be saying.
Gibbs made 3 piss poor calls, but luckily they all ended well for us...can't do that often.
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