QB Battle

Paintrain · 08-02-2004, 08:17 AM

Although everyone in the media seems to have given Brunell the starting job at qb already, how much do you think Ramsey will have to outplay Brunell for Gibbs to name him the starter?

Hogskin · 08-02-2004, 09:11 AM

I think he would just have to edge him out to get the job. But based on both of their histories, I give it a 1 in 1000 shot. A couple guys already noted in the first practices that Ramsey was "slow" or "hesitant". That has been his biggest problem in the past, and will take time to overcome.

Mattyk · 08-02-2004, 09:33 AM

I think Ramsey will have to really outplay Brunell to win the job. If it's neck and neck Brunell will get the nod based on his experience. Ramsey really needs to outshine him, I don't see it happening.

That Guy · 08-02-2004, 10:24 AM

Ramsey always wants the big play, to go deep... brunell and hasslebeck are much better about getting the ball off quickly, and brunell is better on short dump offs because of that.

but it really doesn't matter cause portis thinks they're both jerks

Defensewins · 08-02-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

Ramsey always wants the big play, to go deep... brunell and hasslebeck are much better about getting the ball off quickly, and brunell is better on short dump offs because of that.....

As soon as Ramsey can shake his bad habit of holding on to the ball too long, I will be his biggest fan. At that time I will prefer Ramsey over Brunell. Ramsey's playing style at this point in his career reminds me alot of Drew Bledsoe, they both need to be quicker with the ball, read the defense and throw it...keep the chains moving. They both take to many sacks. Gibbs will teach Ramsey to be a great QB by learing to count the seconds after the snap and get rid of it after 5-6 seconds, regardless if he has to just throw an incompletion.

joethiesmanfan · 08-02-2004, 12:08 PM

I think Ramsey will wind up the STATER CAUSE BRUNNELL WIL, GET HURT, gibbs will ahve in right he reminds me of rypien Willimas or Schroeder but he can move better. I am looking for the new posse to shine this year.

Riggo44 · 08-02-2004, 02:02 PM

It's Brunnell's job to lose!! I see them both playing this year!! Can Brunnell stay healthy??

irish · 08-03-2004, 10:42 AM

PR is the 3rd best QB on this team. For a 1st round pick he has proven to be a major disappointment.

Mattyk · 08-03-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

PR is the 3rd best QB on this team. For a 1st round pick he has proven to be a major disappointment.

huh? If Ramsey has been a disappointment than what does that make Carr and Harrington??

Ramsey is still green and has only 16 starts under his belt. He nearly got killed in Spurrier's joke of an offense but he kept getting up for more.

Under the circumstances I'd say it's very premature to label him disappointing.

He would be the #1 guy on alot of teams around the league. The same can't be said of Hasselbeck.

redwagonskins · 08-03-2004, 11:40 AM

I love all this talk about the QB battle because it actually means that we have a couple of good guys to choose from. Both guys will play this year (what are the chances an NFL starter makes it through the whole season without getting nicked up) and the fact that we have these two helps our chances. I think Brunell will get the nod initially, but I can see Ramsey playing later in the year, ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFF RUN! Here's hoping.

irish · 08-03-2004, 11:50 AM

Carr is on an expansion team and has played well considering, Harrington plays for the wost organization in the league. I'd say cant tell on Carr and a bit of a disappointment for Harrington.

Maybe its too soon to call him a disappointment (in the long term) but as of right now he is the 3rd best QB on this team and that is disappointing for a 1st round pick.

Redskins_P · 08-03-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

PR is the 3rd best QB on this team. For a 1st round pick he has proven to be a major disappointment.

What are you smoking?

Redskins_P · 08-03-2004, 12:44 PM

Ramsey has proved that he can play in the NFL. He had rough year last season, but it was only his 2nd year. Plus he was beat up badly and had no running game to support him. Alot of teams have alot of respect for him because for all the beatings he took. He kept on getting up and never criticized the O-Line or the coaching staff. The kid is tough and he will be a good QB in this league.

If he's a dissapointment, then why was Chicago, and Miami interested in trading for him?

backrow · 08-03-2004, 12:50 PM

You might want to look at Joe Crisp's camp reports, or the newspaper reports.

Both P.Ram, & Brunnel are better than Hasselbeck.
Ram is faster on the throw, and better at getting back and set than Brunnel.

Which means, HOF Coach Gibbs likes Brunnel for his smarts & leadership, and P. Ram for his grittiness.

A team simply has to have two, quality starting QB's. Neither would start and end the entire season! Along the way, the starter will get dinged up, and need replacing.

My choice would not have been to trade for Brunnel. But HOF Coach Gibbs has a different plan. Depth is key, and is critical.

Mattyk · 08-03-2004, 12:50 PM

Through the first 6 games last year he was leading the league in passing yards.

I think it's a huge stretch to call him the 3rd best QB, Hasselbeck is solid but nothing spectacular.

If Hasselbeck wins the #2 job I'll eat some big time crow, but I don't see any chance of that happening.

Irish, what has happened so far in camp that would make you proclaim Ramsey a disappointment and #3 on the depth chart? It's not like he's stunk up the joint while Brunell and Hasselbeck have shined. They've all had their moments. Brunell hasn't been all that sharp and neither has Hasselbeck. They all seem to be on the same page right now.

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That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 31 Posts: 16,046	Ramsey always wants the big play, to go deep... brunell and hasslebeck are much better about getting the ball off quickly, and brunell is better on short dump offs because of that. but it really doesn't matter cause portis thinks they're both jerks __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

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Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 40 Posts: 2,384	It's Brunnell's job to lose!! I see them both playing this year!! Can Brunnell stay healthy?? __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

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backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 62 Posts: 1,799	Irish You might want to look at Joe Crisp's camp reports, or the newspaper reports. Both P.Ram, & Brunnel are better than Hasselbeck. Ram is faster on the throw, and better at getting back and set than Brunnel. Which means, HOF Coach Gibbs likes Brunnel for his smarts & leadership, and P. Ram for his grittiness. A team simply has to have two, quality starting QB's. Neither would start and end the entire season! Along the way, the starter will get dinged up, and need replacing. My choice would not have been to trade for Brunnel. But HOF Coach Gibbs has a different plan. Depth is key, and is critical. __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

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08-02-2004, 08:17 AM	#1
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 43 Posts: 4,812	QB Battle Although everyone in the media seems to have given Brunell the starting job at qb already, how much do you think Ramsey will have to outplay Brunell for Gibbs to name him the starter?

08-02-2004, 09:11 AM	#2
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 72 Posts: 659	I think he would just have to edge him out to get the job. But based on both of their histories, I give it a 1 in 1000 shot. A couple guys already noted in the first practices that Ramsey was "slow" or "hesitant". That has been his biggest problem in the past, and will take time to overcome. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

08-02-2004, 09:33 AM	#3
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 78,760	I think Ramsey will have to really outplay Brunell to win the job. If it's neck and neck Brunell will get the nod based on his experience. Ramsey really needs to outshine him, I don't see it happening.

08-02-2004, 12:08 PM	#6
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	I think Ramsey will wind up the STATER CAUSE BRUNNELL WIL, GET HURT, gibbs will ahve in right he reminds me of rypien Willimas or Schroeder but he can move better. I am looking for the new posse to shine this year.

08-03-2004, 10:42 AM	#8
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,530	PR is the 3rd best QB on this team. For a 1st round pick he has proven to be a major disappointment.

08-03-2004, 11:40 AM	#10
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	I love all this talk about the QB battle because it actually means that we have a couple of good guys to choose from. Both guys will play this year (what are the chances an NFL starter makes it through the whole season without getting nicked up) and the fact that we have these two helps our chances. I think Brunell will get the nod initially, but I can see Ramsey playing later in the year, ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFF RUN! Here's hoping.

08-03-2004, 11:50 AM	#11
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,530	Carr is on an expansion team and has played well considering, Harrington plays for the wost organization in the league. I'd say cant tell on Carr and a bit of a disappointment for Harrington. Maybe its too soon to call him a disappointment (in the long term) but as of right now he is the 3rd best QB on this team and that is disappointing for a 1st round pick.

08-03-2004, 12:44 PM	#13
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Falls Church, VA Age: 35 Posts: 4,084	Ramsey has proved that he can play in the NFL. He had rough year last season, but it was only his 2nd year. Plus he was beat up badly and had no running game to support him. Alot of teams have alot of respect for him because for all the beatings he took. He kept on getting up and never criticized the O-Line or the coaching staff. The kid is tough and he will be a good QB in this league. If he's a dissapointment, then why was Chicago, and Miami interested in trading for him?

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