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Old 09-24-2007, 12:24 PM   #16
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

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I wouldn't have spiked it on first down.

First down, I would have run Portis right up the gut. If I'm stopped I huddle up, come out in a similar formation, play action and boot right with Campbell, see if I can hit Moss in the corner of the endzone. 3rd and one I'd run again with whoever (Betts or Portis) to the left and see if I could get in behind my strength. Now If I'm stopped, I huddle again and come out power I one wide and run right between Kendall and Rabach on 4th down for the touchdown.

Outside of spiking on first, Gibbs did nothing wrong.
Are you kidding me? Those two calls to the left side when everyone knew we were running to the left side was simply terrible and predictable. You don't call the same play twice in a row on the goal line. Those were his calls and they sucked. That was pure 100% Gibbs thinking it was 1983 and we can just run over everybody.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:26 PM   #17
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Are you kidding me? Those two calls to the left side when everyone knew we were running to the left side was simply terrible and predictable. You don't call the same play twice in a row on the goal line. Those were his calls and they sucked. That was pure 100% Gibbs thinking it was 1983 and we can just run over everybody.
And if we had run right and been stuffed, everyone would have been complaining about our failure to run behind our best guys.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:29 PM   #18
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

Same play they missed with Sellers on but replace him with Cooley. Also, let Campbell roll out a little more and make a play with his legs.
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

sneak right up the middle before the defense get set.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:40 PM   #20
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from my buddy,and I agree "Quite frankly, I was very pleased with Jason Campbell. Not his fault how that went down. I thought he made plays when he needed to. The coaches, namely, Sr. Gibbs, blew that one. Absolutely no ability to manage the clock, first they waste two downs, then Campbell bails them out with the pass to Randle El. 1st and Goal from the 1. At this point, it has to be four straight runs up the middle, two with Clinton Portis, two with Jason Campbell, end of story. Clinton is the starting running back, I was disgusted with the drop and the fumble, but he's still gotta be in there. And it shouldn't have mattered, it should have been 4 straight sneaks up the middle with Jason Campbell. Rabach made two awful, awful plays, but still, QB sneak cannot take a loss if its done right, its nearly impossible, the center and the QB just exchange the ball and drive forward. You're given forward momentum, so there's no way, in 4 downs, 4 straight QB sneaks can't make it in the goaline. Just ridiculous.

Campbell is 6'4", 232 (thanks for the clarification). Even if its Saunders calling the plays, Gibbs has to take over at that point, and say, no spikes, we've got a minute to go, 1 yard, 4 straight runs, we have to make it. That's the deal. If you can't make that, you're done."
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from my buddy,and I agree "Quite frankly, I was very pleased with Jason Campbell. Not his fault how that went down. I thought he made plays when he needed to. The coaches, namely, Sr. Gibbs, blew that one. Absolutely no ability to manage the clock, first they waste two downs, then Campbell bails them out with the pass to Randle El. 1st and Goal from the 1. At this point, it has to be four straight runs up the middle, two with Clinton Portis, two with Jason Campbell, end of story. Clinton is the starting running back, I was disgusted with the drop and the fumble, but he's still gotta be in there. And it shouldn't have mattered, it should have been 4 straight sneaks up the middle with Jason Campbell. Rabach made two awful, awful plays, but still, QB sneak cannot take a loss if its done right, its nearly impossible, the center and the QB just exchange the ball and drive forward. You're given forward momentum, so there's no way, in 4 downs, 4 straight QB sneaks can't make it in the goaline. Just ridiculous.

Campbell is 6'5", 250. Even if its Saunders calling the plays, Gibbs has to take over at that point, and say, no spikes, we've got a minute to go, 1 yard, 4 straight runs, we have to make it. That's the deal. If you can't make that, you're done."

It's funny how Campbell keeps growing and growing. I thought he was 6'4" 232??
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It's funny how Campbell keeps growing and growing. I thought he was 6'4" 232??
yea, don't know the his stats...didn't call him out on them though...his point remains- JC is a big guy and he could have jammed it home with 4 tries...
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:18 PM   #23
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

The left tackle run was too predictable, considering our damaged right side. I was looking for Betts to go flying over center on that 4th down play.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:34 PM   #24
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Tell me if I'm crazy, but if Betts did not trip over Sellers on that very last play there was a pretty big hole there and it was basically a race to the pylon and I think Betts wins. Penetration killed that play, bottom line (I once had a high school coach who would say, "playing defense is like sex, once you get penetration its over," kind of a weird guy really, but that line has stayed with me). Betts looked really quick and desive in his cut on that run on 3rd down and the LB just filled the hole too quickly. On the run on 4th down I he scores if he doesn't trip over Sellers. I think the second and third guessing is fun and all, but the Skins were a lot closer to putting the ball in the end zone on that last play than many are giving them credit for. Check it out again and tell me that I'm nuts, but I think those were good calls on the goal line, though they (and this is Jason's fault, but he is young and will learn from it) rushed that last play. The biggest failure in the second half was the defense collapsing (and if you will remember, Burress really saved them in the first half with all his drops, so the Giants were hitting plays pretty much all day, Shockey and Burress just actually caught the ball in the 2nd half).
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:41 PM   #25
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I think the second and third guessing is fun and all, but the Skins were a lot closer to putting the ball in the end zone on that last play than many are giving them credit for.
Yep, about as close as one yard.

I still say Portis gets in...Sellers even.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:01 PM   #26
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In the end though we can play the armchair coach game all we want, they just didn't get it done.
Ugh, it's not going to be fun playing armchair coach the rest of the season. Unless something changes, we're going to keep having these close games, and it's going to bite us more often than not.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:01 PM   #27
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

set up a formation to run a naked bootleg to the other side from where the giants overloaded the left side. the right side was wide open....touchdown but it didn,t happen all that time that they had and they panicked again ,oh well..i was screaming to run a naked bootleg from the start.. or have a tight end sneak out from the formation and hit him in the endzone....
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:04 PM   #28
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

The first mistake was spiking the ball at the one - NY was reeling after the big pass to ARE. I would have tried a QB sneak on first down, on a quick count. If Campbell gained at least a half yard, I'd do it on 2nd and 3rd down too. I would have Sellers pushing the pile from behind each time. Not very creative, but I'd like to think that a 6'4" 230 lb QB can advance the ball one yard given three shots.
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

Sellers Running With Defensive Lineman As His Lead Blocker
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

1st: portis middle
2nd: sneak
3rd: bootleg
4th: portis up the gut
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