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Old 09-24-2007, 03:48 PM   #31
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

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Are you kidding me? Those two calls to the left side when everyone knew we were running to the left side was simply terrible and predictable. You don't call the same play twice in a row on the goal line. Those were his calls and they sucked. That was pure 100% Gibbs thinking it was 1983 and we can just run over everybody.
So? Block 'em.

We can't just run over anybody on every play guarenteed. But if you can't expect to get one yard on two tries from the one, what does that say about your line?

It doesn't matter where you run. They can't afford to key on any one gap. If you run outside, you have to hold the line longer, but you also give your back a chance to walk in untouched if you are successful.

And we weren't. Quit complaning about the coaches making a call that gave us a great chance to win. Things don't always work out.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:49 PM   #32
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

Well in all honesty if Betts got in I believe everybody would be saying it was a good call but on the other hand think Jason rushed the last play & a QB sneak would have been better Campbell is 6'4 or 6'5 230 he could have streched for that yard. Bottom line we lost and we hope our team learned from that tough lose.
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The left tackle run was too predictable, considering our damaged right side. I was looking for Betts to go flying over center on that 4th down play.
A run up the gut? How is that less predictable than anything?
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

Goal line situations aren't the time to get tricky, you have to be able to line up and blow people off the ball to get that one yard. We couldn't punch it in down there so we didn't deserve to win.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:09 PM   #35
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Goal line situations aren't the time to get tricky, you have to be able to line up and blow people off the ball to get that one yard. We couldn't punch it in down there so we didn't deserve to win.
Shows what you know. Clearly, what this team is lacking is a statue of liberty, double reverse, hook 'n ladder, option pass from the one. Damn that conservative run the ball approach!

No one ever wins with a predictable playcall. You never go to your strength, always go for the surprise.

<<He's going to go all the way, unless Blackwood can catch him...>>

I would have done exactly what the Redskins did except with different players. Portis for Betts mainly. And the route that Sellers ran, I'd have run a route where he's already in the endzone when the ball is thrown. Not where he has to catch it and run in
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

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Goal line situations aren't the time to get tricky, you have to be able to line up and blow people off the ball to get that one yard. We couldn't punch it in down there so we didn't deserve to win.
Agreed. You have to know deep down in your gut what type of team you are.

Last I checked, we're a run the ball, pound it 35 or 40 times a game type of team. We have guys like big Mike Sellers just waiting to put a crater in somebody's chest with his helmet.

I can live with pounding it from the 1 and not making it. We went with our bread and butter. The Giants just got off the ball, what can you do.

Seems like they could have been anticipating the snap count a little. But as far as the playcall, I can't fault that move.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:23 PM   #37
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Agreed. You have to know deep down in your gut what type of team you are.

Last I checked, we're a run the ball, pound it 35 or 40 times a game type of team. We have guys like big Mike Sellers just waiting to put a crater in somebody's chest with his helmet.

I can live with pounding it from the 1 and not making it. We went with our bread and butter. The Giants just got off the ball, what can you do.

Seems like they could have been anticipating the snap count a little. But as far as the playcall, I can't fault that move.
We don't have the offensive line to run the ball 40 times a game..plain and simple. But we do have a big mobile QB....Thank GOD
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Shows what you know. Clearly, what this team is lacking is a statue of liberty, double reverse, hook 'n ladder, option pass from the one. Damn that conservative run the ball approach!

No one ever wins with a predictable playcall. You never go to your strength, always go for the surprise.

<<He's going to go all the way, unless Blackwood can catch him...>>

I would have done exactly what the Redskins did except with different players. Portis for Betts mainly. And the route that Sellers ran, I'd have run a route where he's already in the endzone when the ball is thrown. Not where he has to catch it and run in
We are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

1st down. Instead of spiking the ball line up in shotgun and either throw it in the end zone for a td or it's incomplete. That way if we don't make it in on 1st down we can re group on 2nd down and get CP in the game. Or bring in Lloyd on 2nd down since he can jump so high. Throw him a lob pass or a slant. Either way you don't spike it with a minute left.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:39 PM   #39
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

First thing that comes to mind with the sequence at the end for me was: preparation. I love Gibbs to death, just like all of you - but it was his responsibility to have this team prepared in situations like this.

To me, questioning the plays called and the players' execution at the end takes a backseat to Gibbs' responsiblity to prepare this team. For a veteran (not to mention hall-of-famer) coach, this should be a major strength, not a weakness.

If Gibbs hasn't started to already, he needs to go over and prepare these situations in practice. This is what seperates great teams from lesser ones.
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

blah blah blah

That's pretty much all I'm hearing lately
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!! We were 5-11 last year people! When did this sense of entitlement begin?? Sure we let one get away yesterday that we should have won, but we're 2-1!!!!!
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Even after those plays failed you would still run them? And you would substitute a smaller back in Portis for Betts to run over people? and then you would run a slant off tackle with a stacked D-line waiting for it? Nice!!!!!!
I don't think that just because a play doesn't work once you never go back to it again. I also don't believe that Betts 2 pound advantage over Portis is worth sitting CP on the bench for.
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

!st - Spike the Ball to stop the clock.
2nd - Run the ball with Betts
3rd- Fake Spike Hit Moss or Cooley
4th- Play Action to Sellers, Hit Cooley
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

We shoulda brought in Lloyd as the sole WR (as everyone on earth knows he won't catch a TD), with the D thinking run all the way, lob it to him for the easy score.

By the way I am kidding.

In reality, regardless of his earlier fumble CP shoulda been in there, 21 TDs in his last 22 games - the guys got a nose for the endzone.
Also, does no-one fake spike anymore? Hows about running up to the line screaming "spike" and with the D not fully committed as they are assuming spike we get a yard or 2 seperation and "BAM" (in a Dan LeBatard style) there you have it.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:03 PM   #45
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Re: First and goal on the one yard line, what would you do?

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The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!! We were 5-11 last year people! When did this sense of entitlement begin?? Sure we let one get away yesterday that we should have won, but we're 2-1!!!!!

Of course the sky is not falling, but it was raining on a day that was forecasted to be sunny and beautiful for the redskins. It is a little disheartening and at the very least disappointing, that the redskins lost because of the way that the season was going- until the 2nd half of the giants game. On the positive side though, realistically the redskins can be a great team THIS season - if they understand and work on the problems that arose during the 2nd half of the giants game.
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