Redskins Sign Keenan McCardell

SBXVII · 09-27-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Interesting development. I agree with those of you who think this says something about Moss' injury.

If your going to be safe at WR, you're going to get as many guys to learn as much as possible while you've got this opportunity (bye week).

Look out, Lloyd may get another chance after all.

Keep in mind they are only bringing him in for a try out NEXT Wed. So that translates into what 2 days of learning the offense? One would think they would try him out like yesterday and have him learning basic plays throughout the bye week.

chrisl4064 · 09-27-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I heard on Fox 5 that Moss suffered a slight groin injury and will more than likely be ready for Detroit.

groin injuries are the worst! thanks for the info though

SmootSmack · 09-27-2007, 11:51 PM

The always reliable Wiki says he's already a Redskin

Keenan McCardell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't know how I feel about this signing. I guess Saunders saw plenty of him the past few years and liked what he saw but my gut feeling is he's sort of going to be serving a role that Cooley can't play as much of because he has to stay back and block. I'd rather they focus on finding a way to get Cooley out in the passing game, and keep someone else in to block.

I don't know, it's just a shame that Patten and now Lloyd have not panned out for us (not to mention Jacobs) and we're looking to Keenan and Reche. Both are good, especially McCardell (5 years ago) but what Campbell needs more than anything is chemistry with his receivers.

Mattyk · 09-27-2007, 11:59 PM

I see this as insurance in case Moss has more groin troubles down the road. He'll be coming in for the veteran minimum, I don't see much to hate here.

SmootSmack · 09-28-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I see this as insurance in case Moss has more groin troubles down the road. He'll be coming in for the veteran minimum, I don't see much to hate here.

So let's suppose Moss has to miss a game due to injury. Do you slide ARE to the number one role? or is it Keenan or Reche (Thrash? Lloyd?)

Because let's suppose it is KM, you have to adjust a lot of your offense right? I mean KM isn't the ideal receiver for those bubble screens for example

SBXVII · 09-28-2007, 12:30 AM

KM would probubly be the third or fourth WR until he learns the offense. I suppose we would use ARE, Thrash and either Caldwell or Loyd. I know Espy got hurt but didn't we have other WR rookies that looked pretty good in preseason? young talent?

jamf · 09-28-2007, 01:01 AM

I'm very disappointed the Redskins have decided to bring in KM and RC. Nothing against them....

Everyones heard about the 700 page playbook and the timing offense. Can anyone expect anything from KM and RC this year? Even if they had very limited plays, I doubt they will be able to develop timing with JC.
A receiver running the wrong route, Running to the wrong spot, breaking too late and too early in a route can cause plays to breakdown or even turnovers.

Lloyd has been a huge bust. But he didn't get bad overnight. He underachieved all training camp and OTAs. It's up to the coaches and management to field the best roster they possibly can while continually building for the future. If lloyd is so bad, he should've been cut before training camp.

The Redskins are trying to stack the roster at each position. They have 4 cornerbacks that have started whole seasons in the league.
They have 5 WR that have started full seasons.

at some point, You have to have young hungry players dieing for a shot.
Stephen Heyer is a perfect example. Young undrafted guy, But he fits his role on the team. He had a shot to play and he played well!
We need more guys like that. Rock Cartwright is another example, Late round pick but sticks with the team through hard work and good ST play. He has been a very good return guy and solid #3 RB. We don't need to bring in the darrick blaylocks to replace him.

A young WR who's been through training camp has more value now than some tired retread WR who is trying to learn a limited playbook.

You can have your starting players, But with enough injuries, You are going to have to play young guys who were drafted in the later rounds. Thats not a bad thing if you draft guys that fit your system.
Guys like Asante Samuels, TJ Housyourmommazdah, and Steve Smith aren't guys that started from day 1, they earned their keep and when their time came, they stepped up.

The redskins need to stop bringing in other peoples trash and start developing their own talent.

sorry for the incoherent rant, I had a tough day on a job site installing an ip phone system. AT&T decided to gang bang me and not tell me...

Btw, That chick in the mercury car commercials is freaking hot!

Terp4lyfe25 · 09-28-2007, 01:54 AM

Moss' health is obviously a concern after signing mcCardell epecially since the skins already have like 7 or 8 recievers on their roster. McCardell will be with the team until Moss is able to return at 100% or as insurance. McCardell will prob start as a 3 until he knows the offense and builds some sort of chemistry with Campbell. Lloyd or thrash will most likley b the number one even though randell el has been playing well hes just not a established reciever, put in the game more to draw attention from the deffense and run trick plays and yes occationally catch a pass which he has been doing well but hes still not the established reciever a number 1 has to be, so he'll be a two or three. On the other hand this is good news for brandon llyod with a chance to finally prove himself. If he can not establish himself at reciever by the end of the season i see no reason in keeping him and wasting the 4th round pick we gave up for him. thers no doubt he has the potential to be a great number 2 or 3 but he hasnt shown it. He's not a good compliment to moss anyway. two speedy deep threat recievers is not the way to go. they need a big frame possesion reviever opposite moss.

jsarno · 09-28-2007, 02:02 AM

I am just surprised we didn't do anything about our WR's during the offseason, which lead us to believe that everything was good with the players. Then we start the season and it seems we are hitting the WR panic button.
I actually like the KM signing cause he would be a good mentor, but i thought Reche was brought in to be #3 (he's not) and now Keenan? Are they priming us for a Lloyd cut?

djnemo65 · 09-28-2007, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

I'm very disappointed the Redskins have decided to bring in KM and RC. Nothing against them....

Everyones heard about the 700 page playbook and the timing offense. Can anyone expect anything from KM and RC this year? Even if they had very limited plays, I doubt they will be able to develop timing with JC.
A receiver running the wrong route, Running to the wrong spot, breaking too late and too early in a route can cause plays to breakdown or even turnovers.

Lloyd has been a huge bust. But he didn't get bad overnight. He underachieved all training camp and OTAs. It's up to the coaches and management to field the best roster they possibly can while continually building for the future. If lloyd is so bad, he should've been cut before training camp.

The Redskins are trying to stack the roster at each position. They have 4 cornerbacks that have started whole seasons in the league.
They have 5 WR that have started full seasons.

at some point, You have to have young hungry players dieing for a shot.
Stephen Heyer is a perfect example. Young undrafted guy, But he fits his role on the team. He had a shot to play and he played well!
We need more guys like that. Rock Cartwright is another example, Late round pick but sticks with the team through hard work and good ST play. He has been a very good return guy and solid #3 RB. We don't need to bring in the darrick blaylocks to replace him.

A young WR who's been through training camp has more value now than some tired retread WR who is trying to learn a limited playbook.

You can have your starting players, But with enough injuries, You are going to have to play young guys who were drafted in the later rounds. Thats not a bad thing if you draft guys that fit your system.
Guys like Asante Samuels, TJ Housyourmommazdah, and Steve Smith aren't guys that started from day 1, they earned their keep and when their time came, they stepped up.

The redskins need to stop bringing in other peoples trash and start developing their own talent.

sorry for the incoherent rant, I had a tough day on a job site installing an ip phone system. AT&T decided to gang bang me and not tell me...

Btw, That chick in the mercury car commercials is freaking hot!

If the argument is that the Skins need to make a larger commitment to developing and retaining draft picks, well, I think they clearly are moving in that direction. They have been chastened by the failures of players like Lloyd and Duckett and have thus remained committed to next year's and future drafts.

But you say yourself they have to field the best team possible and I don't see anyway that McCardell as insurance can't help us this year. It's not like we have some hungry young receivers we are cutting out. We have deficiencies at that position. And it's not like we are cutting Stephen Heyer to sign some older offensive lineman, or getting rid of Ryan Clark to bring in Archuletta. We are trying to help our team this year.

So I don't see the problem with this move.

And ditto on the mercury girl.

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-28-2007, 07:05 AM

i just heard on NFL Network that the Skins will sign KM on monday..

htownskinfan · 09-28-2007, 08:08 AM

The Texans are in a lot worse shape at wr than we are,their top 3 are out for this game which leaves their #1 reciever they have left,Andre Davis,playing with a dislocated finger,they were the last team to look at KM and with all their injuries they havent called him back? if KM had anything left in the tank seems like the Texans would be calling

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-28-2007, 08:33 AM

Henry Ellard anyone?

MonkFan4Life · 09-28-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Henry Ellard anyone?

If he produces like Ellard then I will be BOOSTED !!!!

Cowell · 09-28-2007, 09:41 AM

I honestly don't think this was a good choice. I understand that our receivers haven't produced that much, but I think signing Caldwell was more than enough and that we will be fine. I didn't read a lot of the posts so sorry if I missed it but does anyone know for how much we got him?

09-27-2007, 11:51 PM	#33
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,222	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell The always reliable Wiki says he's already a Redskin Keenan McCardell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I don't know how I feel about this signing. I guess Saunders saw plenty of him the past few years and liked what he saw but my gut feeling is he's sort of going to be serving a role that Cooley can't play as much of because he has to stay back and block. I'd rather they focus on finding a way to get Cooley out in the passing game, and keep someone else in to block. I don't know, it's just a shame that Patten and now Lloyd have not panned out for us (not to mention Jacobs) and we're looking to Keenan and Reche. Both are good, especially McCardell (5 years ago) but what Campbell needs more than anything is chemistry with his receivers. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-27-2007, 11:59 PM	#34
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,196	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell I see this as insurance in case Moss has more groin troubles down the road. He'll be coming in for the veteran minimum, I don't see much to hate here. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-28-2007, 12:30 AM	#36
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell KM would probubly be the third or fourth WR until he learns the offense. I suppose we would use ARE, Thrash and either Caldwell or Loyd. I know Espy got hurt but didn't we have other WR rookies that looked pretty good in preseason? young talent?

09-28-2007, 01:01 AM	#37
jamf The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 2,178	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell I'm very disappointed the Redskins have decided to bring in KM and RC. Nothing against them.... Everyones heard about the 700 page playbook and the timing offense. Can anyone expect anything from KM and RC this year? Even if they had very limited plays, I doubt they will be able to develop timing with JC. A receiver running the wrong route, Running to the wrong spot, breaking too late and too early in a route can cause plays to breakdown or even turnovers. Lloyd has been a huge bust. But he didn't get bad overnight. He underachieved all training camp and OTAs. It's up to the coaches and management to field the best roster they possibly can while continually building for the future. If lloyd is so bad, he should've been cut before training camp. The Redskins are trying to stack the roster at each position. They have 4 cornerbacks that have started whole seasons in the league. They have 5 WR that have started full seasons. at some point, You have to have young hungry players dieing for a shot. Stephen Heyer is a perfect example. Young undrafted guy, But he fits his role on the team. He had a shot to play and he played well! We need more guys like that. Rock Cartwright is another example, Late round pick but sticks with the team through hard work and good ST play. He has been a very good return guy and solid #3 RB. We don't need to bring in the darrick blaylocks to replace him. A young WR who's been through training camp has more value now than some tired retread WR who is trying to learn a limited playbook. You can have your starting players, But with enough injuries, You are going to have to play young guys who were drafted in the later rounds. Thats not a bad thing if you draft guys that fit your system. Guys like Asante Samuels, TJ Housyourmommazdah, and Steve Smith aren't guys that started from day 1, they earned their keep and when their time came, they stepped up. The redskins need to stop bringing in other peoples trash and start developing their own talent. sorry for the incoherent rant, I had a tough day on a job site installing an ip phone system. AT&T decided to gang bang me and not tell me... Btw, That chick in the mercury car commercials is freaking hot!

09-28-2007, 01:54 AM	#38
Terp4lyfe25 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell Moss' health is obviously a concern after signing mcCardell epecially since the skins already have like 7 or 8 recievers on their roster. McCardell will be with the team until Moss is able to return at 100% or as insurance. McCardell will prob start as a 3 until he knows the offense and builds some sort of chemistry with Campbell. Lloyd or thrash will most likley b the number one even though randell el has been playing well hes just not a established reciever, put in the game more to draw attention from the deffense and run trick plays and yes occationally catch a pass which he has been doing well but hes still not the established reciever a number 1 has to be, so he'll be a two or three. On the other hand this is good news for brandon llyod with a chance to finally prove himself. If he can not establish himself at reciever by the end of the season i see no reason in keeping him and wasting the 4th round pick we gave up for him. thers no doubt he has the potential to be a great number 2 or 3 but he hasnt shown it. He's not a good compliment to moss anyway. two speedy deep threat recievers is not the way to go. they need a big frame possesion reviever opposite moss.

09-28-2007, 02:02 AM	#39
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38 Posts: 9,534	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell I am just surprised we didn't do anything about our WR's during the offseason, which lead us to believe that everything was good with the players. Then we start the season and it seems we are hitting the WR panic button. I actually like the KM signing cause he would be a good mentor, but i thought Reche was brought in to be #3 (he's not) and now Keenan? Are they priming us for a Lloyd cut? __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

09-28-2007, 07:05 AM	#41
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell i just heard on NFL Network that the Skins will sign KM on monday..

09-28-2007, 08:08 AM	#42
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 51 Posts: 3,018	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell The Texans are in a lot worse shape at wr than we are,their top 3 are out for this game which leaves their #1 reciever they have left,Andre Davis,playing with a dislocated finger,they were the last team to look at KM and with all their injuries they havent called him back? if KM had anything left in the tank seems like the Texans would be calling __________________ Ho Lee Chit

09-28-2007, 08:33 AM	#43
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell Henry Ellard anyone? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-28-2007, 09:41 AM	#45
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Rumor: Redskins sign Keenan McCardell I honestly don't think this was a good choice. I understand that our receivers haven't produced that much, but I think signing Caldwell was more than enough and that we will be fine. I didn't read a lot of the posts so sorry if I missed it but does anyone know for how much we got him?

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