Campbell's Shortcoming

Staind · 12-04-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If you mean to say that Jason has a tendency to fumble when hit, you are correct. If you are saying that Jason can't handle psychological pressure you could not be more wrong.

I have seen Campbell several times make a huge mistake come fourth quarter in tight games. The longer he's on the feild the worse he gets.

Redskin Warrior · 12-04-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Campbell will be fine. Give him experience and a better O-line, and you'll see him take the next step.

Thank You I totally agree 100% he needs more experience and a better o-line badly.

prinzeofmoval · 12-05-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Thank You I totally agree 100% he needs more experience and a better o-line badly.

and a more reliable receiver...moss drops too many big game passes..and randle el hasnt lived up to his super bowl hype.

That Guy · 12-05-2007, 03:29 AM

all i can say is, thanks eli.

out of the 13 QBs that have started every game this year, eli is by far the worst in a whole bunch of categories, which is good, cause campbell is 12th in most of them :/ .

SC Skins Fan · 12-05-2007, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yes, but is it any coincidence that the Jags look so good with Garrard, who is taking care of the ball better than anybody in the league?

It's also no coincidence that Garrard threw his first INT last week when the Jags were placed in a position where they had to pass the ball and couldn't rely on the run game. This is also Garrard's 6th season. Last season, in 10 games started, Garrard threw 10 tds/9 ints, had 4 fumbles, 2 lost. I'm confident Jason will come around.

Schneed10 · 12-05-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I guess not, but then explain Joey Harrington 2 places later.. Like I said, stats tell you everything at the same time they tell you nothing.

Harrington has had a pretty good season, all things considered. He has completed 61.5% of his passes and has NEVER fumbled despite being sacked 32 times. That's ball security.

He hasn't gotten noticed because he has only thrown for 7 TDs. And it's hard to fault him for that given their WR play.

cpayne5 · 12-05-2007, 01:05 PM

Good blog entry by JLC on the matter...
Patience With The Passer - Redskins Insider

JWsleep · 12-05-2007, 01:19 PM

Beat me to it, Payne. More good stuff from JLC--the man is on a roll.

This strikes me as a moot argument right now--we're locked into JC for the next few seasons at least--we're not going after another QB, even if the negative comments are correct, which I doubt--with all the other needs we have.

Schneed10 · 12-05-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Beat me to it, Payne. More good stuff from JLC--the man is on a roll.

This strikes me as a moot argument right now--we're locked into JC for the next few seasons at least--we're not going after another QB, even if the negative comments are correct, which I doubt--with all the other needs we have.

I can only speak for myself and can't speak on the comments others have made, but to criticize Campbell is certainly not why I started the thread.

The point of this thread was to point out that Campbell is exhibiting behaviors typical of young QBs - not totally careful with the ball. It was also to say that Campbell will get a lot better as he learns to control this.

Mainly though, my point was nobody should get too down on the young fella because that's what he is, young. He's making the mistakes you expect to see a young QB make - and we shouldn't expect too much of him so soon. He'll only get better, and hopefully he improves and doesn't go the way of Patrick Ramsey.

Paintrain · 12-05-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Harrington has had a pretty good season, all things considered. He has completed 61.5% of his passes and has NEVER fumbled despite being sacked 32 times. That's ball security.

He hasn't gotten noticed because he has only thrown for 7 TDs. And it's hard to fault him for that given their WR play.

He hasn't gotten noticed because he was benched twice and they are awful.. I can't give any list that Joey Harrington is near the leaders in any credibility, sorry.

Schneed10 · 12-05-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

He hasn't gotten noticed because he was benched twice and they are awful.. I can't give any list that Joey Harrington is near the leaders in any credibility, sorry.

Paintrain, what is hard to understand here. This is not some sort of ranking of QBs. It's not to say that Joey Harrington is a top 5 QB in the league.

It simply says that Joey Harrington has taken care of the ball really well. It says NOTHING about his ability to make throws or move the ball.

The reason I'm posting it isn't to bring up a debate on where the QBs rank. I'm bringing it up because it shows that Campbell is turning the ball over a lot.

That by no means indicates he's a bad QB. It's just A PART of his game he needs to work on.

#56fanatic · 12-05-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Staind

Campbell crumbles under pressure.

that couldn't possibly be further from the truth. Go back and look at the Eagles game, 2nd week. the dallas game, giants game. the kid is very composed under pressure. I have no idea who you are watching. Composure is never the issue with him. accuracy maybe, composure, no way

memphisskin · 12-05-2007, 03:16 PM

I know that we come in here to vent, but in a season full of disappointments I thought Campbell was one of the few bright spots. Every young qb has growing pains, did we really expect Campbell to be Tom Brady this year? Does JC need to learn to tuck the ball away, yes. But the line also needs to do its job, they don't get a free pass in this. Yes, Campbell has a lot to learn, but he's learning and wasn't that what this year was about? I hear all the talk about his peers, but his peers don't play for us, JC does. And I see growth, I don't see his turnvoers as him developing any bad habits, I see a guy who is trying to do what he can to win games. And that, like everything else, is something that you learn to do. Plus, its not like he's getting much help, so for him to continue to keep plugging away shows the guts of a champion.

Mattyk · 12-05-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by memphisskin

I know that we come in here to vent, but in a season full of disappointments I thought Campbell was one of the few bright spots. Every young qb has growing pains, did we really expect Campbell to be Tom Brady this year? Does JC need to learn to tuck the ball away, yes. But the line also needs to do its job, they don't get a free pass in this. Yes, Campbell has a lot to learn, but he's learning and wasn't that what this year was about? I hear all the talk about his peers, but his peers don't play for us, JC does. And I see growth, I don't see his turnvoers as him developing any bad habits, I see a guy who is trying to do what he can to win games. And that, like everything else, is something that you learn to do. Plus, its not like he's getting much help, so for him to continue to keep plugging away shows the guts of a champion.

Good post, I think some people really need to learn the value of patience. When it comes to a first year starter, JC has done a great job and has really come a long way. When I hear comparisons to Romo I just cringe. Two totally different players and circumstances.

saden1 · 12-05-2007, 03:55 PM

The honeymoon for JC will be over after this season. If he performs like he has this season next season I'm afraid it will be time to look at other options. Don't get me wrong, I have faith in him but he really needs to start winning games or else we'll have a Grossman on our hands.

12-05-2007, 03:29 AM	#34
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,644	Re: Campbell's Shortcoming all i can say is, thanks eli. out of the 13 QBs that have started every game this year, eli is by far the worst in a whole bunch of categories, which is good, cause campbell is 12th in most of them :/ . __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

12-05-2007, 01:05 PM	#37
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,806	Re: Campbell's Shortcoming Good blog entry by JLC on the matter... Patience With The Passer - Redskins Insider __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

12-05-2007, 01:19 PM	#38
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 44 Posts: 4,576	Re: Campbell's Shortcoming Beat me to it, Payne. More good stuff from JLC--the man is on a roll. This strikes me as a moot argument right now--we're locked into JC for the next few seasons at least--we're not going after another QB, even if the negative comments are correct, which I doubt--with all the other needs we have. __________________ Hail from Houston!

12-05-2007, 03:16 PM	#43
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 958	Re: Campbell's Shortcoming I know that we come in here to vent, but in a season full of disappointments I thought Campbell was one of the few bright spots. Every young qb has growing pains, did we really expect Campbell to be Tom Brady this year? Does JC need to learn to tuck the ball away, yes. But the line also needs to do its job, they don't get a free pass in this. Yes, Campbell has a lot to learn, but he's learning and wasn't that what this year was about? I hear all the talk about his peers, but his peers don't play for us, JC does. And I see growth, I don't see his turnvoers as him developing any bad habits, I see a guy who is trying to do what he can to win games. And that, like everything else, is something that you learn to do. Plus, its not like he's getting much help, so for him to continue to keep plugging away shows the guts of a champion.

12-05-2007, 03:55 PM	#45
saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,738	Re: Campbell's Shortcoming The honeymoon for JC will be over after this season. If he performs like he has this season next season I'm afraid it will be time to look at other options. Don't get me wrong, I have faith in him but he really needs to start winning games or else we'll have a Grossman on our hands. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ!

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