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Old 12-04-2007, 09:16 PM   #1
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Grand jury identifies Rivera as gunman in death of Taylor

I sure hope they charge this piece of trash as an adult. Iíll be pretty pissed off if he getís out in a few years because he was 17 when he shot Sean.

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:22 PM   #2
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Any judge who tries a 17 year old cold-blooded murdering thug as a juvenile should be removed from the bench. I noticed that Rivera was on the shorter side. Tough guy when he has a gun - We'll see how tough he is when mixed with more hardened criminals.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:23 PM   #3
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I sure hope they charge this piece of trash as an adult. Iíll be pretty pissed off if he getís out in a few years because he was 17 when he shot Sean.

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They generally charge 16 & 17 year olds as adults in these crimes.
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I sure hope they charge this piece of trash as an adult. Iíll be pretty pissed off if he getís out in a few years because he was 17 when he shot Sean.

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I remember when I was 17 and I did some silly stuff. Throw snowballs at police cars, drank beer, toilet papered some chicks houses. Just stupid stuff. But never ever ever did me and my friends have a gun nor would we ever break into someones house and steal something. I just can't imagine what the hell these guys were thinking. Didn't they see a car in the driveway? I mean I'm just still in shock over this. But I'll tell you what. I'm considering buying a gun now. I would have no problem blowing some little punk's head off if my house was invaded.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:31 PM   #5
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It's such BS that they didn't expect Sean to be home.. They took a LOADED gun into a residence. You don't do that if you don't plan to use it. I hope they throw the book at these punks. Literally and figuratively. I hope it's a nice big fat book too.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:49 PM   #6
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Per Florida's statutes, the state's attorney can file a "discretionary waiver" which is a motion requesting the court to transfer the child for criminal prosecution if the child was 14 years of age or older at the time the alleged delinquent act or violation of law was committed.

He's going to be tried as an adult. All I can say is Florida isn't wasting any time. The case is already transferred from juvenile court and an indictment issued in a week? That's really fast.
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the sooner they're in the ground the better
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Look if any of you are looking for the death penalty for any of these guys you can forget it. The shooter is 17 and the Supreme Court just ruled that it's Unconstitutional to exucute anyone under 18. The rest of these idiots are not even eligible for the death penalty under Florida law.

My big concern is this. Some of these guys will make it back into society one day and believe you me chances are they will be ten times as worthless and 100 times a bigger threat to the general public. There is no justice in that. This nightmare has no end in sight. Or maybe we can start to change things. We gotta get rid of many of the types of the guns in our society that are most frequently used in violent crimes. Period.
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I have 3 friends getting guns cus of this.

A gun is an American's Right and Choice and I am not advizing either way. As a non-Active Duty Marine I have a weapon but take it VERY serious. It was made to KILL. Period. Guns are not very serious and I know we have folks on both sides of the fence.

If you use a gun in a crime you should get the MAX of the law. Death or Life...the MAX
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Hey I'm not advocating no guns. We just need like you said harsher laws and stronger controls on certain types of guns IMO.
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What I dont get is if they thought he wasnt home. Why would they go straight to his bedroom? Was they planing on attacking Jackie? Were they clearing the house and Sean scared them? Just doesnt make sense fucking scum balls should line up for a firing squad with Taylors family with guns. Eye for an Eye!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Look if any of you are looking for the death penalty for any of these guys you can forget it. The shooter is 17 and the Supreme Court just ruled that it's Unconstitutional to exucute anyone under 18. The rest of these idiots are not even eligible for the death penalty under Florida law.

My big concern is this. Some of these guys will make it back into society one day and believe you me chances are they will be ten times as worthless and 100 times a bigger threat to the general public. There is no justice in that. This nightmare has no end in sight. Or maybe we can start to change things. We gotta get rid of many of the types of the guns in our society that are most frequently used in violent crimes. Period.
My Juvenile Delinquency teacher said by time these guys sit, and then go to trial and then if they have to deal with appeals and such, the guy will probably be 18.

I mean unless the kid either JUST turned 17 or they're gonna throw this thing in court as fast as they can, there's a chance he'll turn 18 before sentencing.

And in violent cases such as murder and rape, juveniles almost always get waived to adult status.

I SERIOUSLY doubt he'll get first degree murder/capital murder because the murder itself wasn't premeditated. Shooter's probably looking at life without the possibility of parole. (Sorry for everyone who wanted him to fry)
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What I dont get is if they thought he wasnt home. Why would they go straight to his bedroom? Was they planing on attacking Jackie? Were they clearing the house and Sean scared them? Just doesnt make sense fucking scum balls should line up for a firing squad with Taylors family with guns. Eye for an Eye!!!!!!!!!!!!
They scoped out the house during Sean's party, apparently they were guests. They probably went straight towards the bedroom cause hey, isn't that where most people keep money/jewelry/expensive things in their house?

Sean and the intruders probably ran into each other, shooter got startled and pulled the trigger.
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I have 3 friends getting guns cus of this.

A gun is an American's Right and Choice and I am not advizing either way. As a non-Active Duty Marine I have a weapon but take it VERY serious. It was made to KILL. Period. Guns are not very serious and I know we have folks on both sides of the fence.

If you use a gun in a crime you should get the MAX of the law. Death or Life...the MAX
I don't really advocate gun use. I DEFINITELY am not one of those people who are like get rid of all of them. Cause in the US that's definitely not gonna work. Crime would run CRAZY rampant then. I just wish there was a better tactic so that good people could keep guns for protection and criminals/drug dealers couldn't. I mean, cause if it's coming into my house and it ends up being like a showdown at the ok corral, i'm probably gonna be the one to lose.

I just know I could never have a gun. I'd probably shoot it and the recoil would be so bad, it'd fly out my hands like something out of bad police academy movie.
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:50 AM   #15
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THis was bad enough, but the last thing I want to see is more people getting guns. I enjoy shooting guns for fun, go to Blue Ridge Arsenal sometimes, but I don't think it's ever something I could have in my house.

(Talking about hand guns, not hunting rifles, etc)
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